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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Did you take the time to read the research linked in that thread or do you just want to start another racist/classist thread? There is a political forum for your type.[/quote]

I am asking a very specific question.  There are two separate points  that are often conflated.  One, that SES mixed schools (30-50 % disadvantaged) Provide academic benefits to low SES kids and high SES kids do fine (or maybe better).  The second, what I am asking about, is that the education of the mother is the factor most correlated with a child’s academic success.  The second is often used to support the argument that the success of a school doesn’t matter at all because your child will do well no matter what solely because of who the parents are.  What I am asking whether and, if so, how those studies establish causation or otherwise account for the choices an educated mother will make on where she sends her children to school or it is pure correlation?

None of the linked research (to the extent it opens because some links are bad) address my question.   Sending my child to a poorly performing school is a different question than sending my kids to an SES mixed school.  I have zero problem with the second.  [/quote]

OP, I know people like you in real life.   There is no study or analysis that could convince you that "High SES students will perform well no matter their peer group" because you have already made up your mind that you don't want to send your kid to a school where they might have a different peer group.   You will find fault or ignore or nitpick any study or analysis that shows otherwise.[/quote]

+1. See McKinley, Banneker[/quote]

There's a world of difference between sending your white kid to Banneker, and sending them to say Ballou with 65% 1s on the PARCC ELA.  I get why we're having this conversation, and I agree that white parents are often racist, but I don't think it helps to deny the truth that most parents, period, would wish for a better school than Ballou.  I also think it can be counter-productive to deny the problems in these schools, because upper SES parents freak out and over-react when they start to see some of the difficulties and develop even more entrenched prejudices (saw this in action with our zoned middle school.)  Better to acknowledge that, to a degree, high-poverty/all-black schools can be very difficult and poorly resources places because they are, of course, the product of our existing inequalities.  [/quote]

(And all this said, I am sure my white kid would be "fine" if he went to  HS at Ballou, in that I have the time and money to advocate for him at school to make sure he gets into the appropriate classes, has activities out of school, gets SAT test prep, goes to a 4-year college, have any mental health/developmental needs addressed right away, good food, good sleep, etc etc etc.)  [/quote]

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