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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]So completely worthless in VA?

I just got the try out email and figure it was either a waste of time money grab or something my kid isn’t actually good enough for.

Our U13 DD’s team isn’t looking great next for next year so I’m looking for something to supplement for the year. [/quote]

Not completely worthless in VA. DD had great experience at u13 and better understood where she stacked up against other players. There are some great players and some average, the experience got better as selections kept getting made. [/quote]

[b]This is for VA[/b]

It's not worthless. There is value in playing with different players and getting different coaching perspectives.

Worth it? $500 for district training--10 weeks x 1.5 hrs on Sunday nights maybe near you. Fall 2017 the training was in Leesburg. 2018 it was in Fairfax.

$500 for state pool training. 10 Saturdays or Sundays x 1.5 or 2 hrs in Fredericksburg. And wait until you carefully plan your weekend around ODP and then get an email on Friday night that they've switched to the "inclement weather" schedule, meaning that now your plans are all messed up.

$500 for each weekend event, in which your DC will participate in 3 games. Usually 3 weekend events.
If you're keeping count, we're up to $2500 now, which is about the cost of a year of travel soccer.

Camp is another $500, and the big Europe trip is around $3k.

Every family needs to decide whether it's worth it.[/quote]

This looks like a big 'ol money grab - which isn't anything new except this time it is actually the state governing body that is profiting from it, which is kind of sickening to me.

If VYSA was serious about offering an alternative pathway for the top (non-DA) players in the state (which would be awesome IMO), ODP would be free.  At the very least, they would be liberally granting scholarships and advertising that fact very prominently in their emails and on their web site (they don't).  They would also be sending emails in Spanish as well as English (nada).

Instead, you get a program that is only for players who can afford to pay an additional $2500 per year, [b]on top of what they are already paying in fees for their regular club team[/b].

If you are considering signing your kid up and wondering about the level of player, let that sink in for a bit.  They are only selecting from a pool of players who can afford to be spending $4000-$5000 a year on soccer.  They aren't getting the best players.  They're getting the best rich players.

Dig a little deeper and look at the math.  They are charging $50 per 90 minute session.  They have the same costs as your kid's club team - field rentals and paying the coaches.  How much does your kid's club team charge per 90 minute session?   Let's say your team practices 3x/week and takes one month off in the winter, 2 months off in the summer.  So that's about 40 weeks x 3 sessions/week = 120.  Figure at least an additional 25 games between fall and spring leagues, a couple/few tournaments, and some friendlies.    So as a ball-park, you're getting about 145 sessions a year.  Even if your club charges $3000 a year, that works out to a little more than $20 a session.

To get to the $50 a session that ODP charges, a club would have to charge $6000 a year and only offer 120 sessions in total.

Further comparision - even HP Elite is under $35 a session, and they are paying for indoor space.   No one charges $50 for group training sessions.

Bottom line - instead of subsidizing ODP to offset the expense and keep costs down for eligible players, VYSA is doing the exact opposite.  It is a cash grab and a total rip-off.

We should expect and demand more.

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Except it isn't a training program it is an identification program. At each stage 50% of the kids are cut until the Regional pool. At each stage you are free to opt out if your child is selected. Not every age group goes to Europe. [/quote]

So because it's an identification program not a training program that justifies jacking up the price so much?

I didn't include the cost of the Europe trip.  It costs $2500 just for state pool if you include the 3 weekend events.

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