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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I don't think my son is gifted, but he has incredible executive function skills and loves to work hard. He is a rising second grader and said school was too boring last year and he hopes it is harder next year. Over the summer, he wanted to learn 2nd and 3rd grade math, so we're currently on multiplication and division. I really feel like he would benefit from being in the AAP program, though his NNAT score was just around 120. What are the chances that a child that is not actually gifted, but interested in working hard and learning, can be placed in the AAP program? My older daughter has learning disabilities, so this is all new to me. [/quote] Dear Op, You can actually work on making your son obedient and train him to learn to follow teacher instructions to the T. If he is identified as a favorite by the teacher and the AART, then your GBRS will be very high. They do not measure gifted abilities You can then practice Cogat paper folding section and eventually go over other areas. A very high GBRS and a high Cogat will get your child selected. The only point I would like to make you aware is that the time you spend teaching your child is way more valuable in making him successful than relying on public school AART, AAP or GenEd teachers who manage 26 children per class.[/quote] Being obedient and following teacher instructions to the t are not going to result in a high GBRS. If anything, doing those things will make a child look as though he has not a speck of creativity and only knows how to do what he is told. [/quote] The PP (or someone like the PP), complaining that only well behaved kids loved by teachers get good GBRS, likes to post the same thing in every AAP thread. It is a bogus argument. But I don't agree with the follow up post. My DSs classroom had a bunch of scrap paper for kids to work on when they finished their work. My well behaved DS would finish his work and then get scrap paper and start to write his own story, in English, or do math problems he made up, in Math. His teachers, he is in language immersion so he had two, both commented on how well he occupied himself doing extra work while not disturbing other kids in the class who were still working. Teachers observe what is happening in the classroom. They see the kids who are bored, smart, and disruptive because they are bored and struggle with how to handle the down time once they finish their work. They know that those smart, bored kids need more of a challenge and that is reflected in their GBRSs. Teachers see the kids who are smart and quiet and not being disruptive and will comment on that. Teachers also see kids who are doing well, maybe on the upper end of the class, who are disruptive but who are likely to be caught academically by their peers in the near future. I understand that the system is not prefect. In classrooms where the teacher is more challenged, they might miss the quiet kid that is well behaved but could benefit from AAP. DS is starting second grade and I am worried about his GBRSs because I know he is the quiet kid who doesn't raise his hand. His K and First Grade teacher both talked about that at the parent teacher conference. They both also knew that he was one of the go to kids who could give the correct answer when they called on him. And they knew that he would work independently when he finished his work. So I know that they saw him and were working on building his confidence so he would participate more on a voluntary basis. But I am not so sure how those GBRSs will work out. Prep, don't prep that is a families decision. My DH bought the GBRS book with a couple of exams from Amazon to go through with DS. DH was bored in school a lot and is worried that DS will be as well. I have learning disabilities and struggled in ES and MS, I found my footing in HS, so I was never bored. I think DS would be fine if he stayed in his language immersion program but DH is worried that the math is too slow and boring. The first grade math was really slow and boring so I understand where DH is coming from. I don't think DS needs the prep but it is not something I am worried about. [/quote]
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