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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]That is where religion is a joke as anyone can do horrible things to anyone else and its ok as long as they claim religion and confess.  I'd rather rather be a good person and atheist than someone who believes in an unproved God doing horrible things.[/quote]

I think you misunderstand confession. It’s not supposed to be “My bad!”. I was raised to believe that the forgiveness of sins only came with actual repentance. If you just say I’m sorry, but continue the behavior, the relationship with God is not repaired.

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This is my understanding as well.

I believe that if you sin, and you are truly sorry for what you did and ask for forgiveness, then God will show you mercy.  Do you think no one should ever be forgiven, OP?  [/quote]

I don't know all ins and outs of the Catholicism but isn't it that Jesus actually gave the power of forgiveness to the hands of one another?
It totally makes sense, at least to me. If someone trespasses against another person, it only makes sense that until the trespassers make it
up to the trespassee only then they can ask for forgiveness of them and God because God in a way only would supervise the process that is between two humans. It kind of sucks and sounds like a legal loop when people think  you can hurt another and then ask God for forgiveness while you don't make up to the one you hurt. Right? It only makes  sense.

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No.  That isn’t right.  Being sorry for something you did is something you do on your own.  It doesn’t require other people to agree with you or even know about it.  And it isn’t a loophole.  
Again, I still feel like you have an assumption that when people are asking for forgiveness, they don’t really feel sorry, ashamed, guilty, or mournful about what they did, or that they don’t try to repair their wrongs.  It isn’t just all just some kind of lip service.

But, for example, if you were, say, a real estate attorney, and you spent decades finding legal loopholes for your clients to get around environmental laws and save money when building a new development.  At some point, you realize the error of your ways, and you ask Gods forgiveness, stop doing that work, and spend your retirement living simply, donating most of your money to environmental organizations and working to close these legal loopholes, then you would be forgiven.

Or if, say, you are a terrible mother and drink throughout most of your kids’ childhoods.  Then one day, you sober up, realize the error of your ways, and repent and realize all of the horrible things you did, and ask for Gods forgiveness.  Then you get really involved in aa, stay sober, and sponsor and help other young mothers so they can give their children a better childhood.  Your own adult children might never forgive you, but you would be forgiven by God.

You see, it isn’t up to us to judge, to decide who is forgiven and who isn’t.  That isn’t a power that was given to human beings.  [/quote]

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