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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][b]Not sleep training[/b]. DS1 is 4 and still has trouble sleeping but DS2 we sleep trained and is a sleeping CHAMP. [/quote]

I’ve noticed the parents who never sleep trained or addressed sleep really late have HORRIBLE sleepers. [/quote]

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I don’t know how people are still so ignorant. We (mostly) all know that the parents who say  “I didn’t have to sleep train my baby and he just started sleeping through the night naturally when he was ready so all babies must behave this way and training is cruel” are completely nuts. But do you realize that those of you who say, “so and so didn’t sleep train like they should have so they have a 4 year old who can’t sleep” are ALSO nuts?! Have you never met an adult who struggles with insomnia or nightmares or restless, light sleep? Do you really think all those people just had weak parents who failed to train them properly as infants?! Just like some people aren’t great runners and others have sensitive stomachs etc. some people aren’t great at falling instantly asleep and sleeping soundly for 8 hours. They were children too. Some people are going to be shitty sleepers no matter how hard you try to train them as babies. You are being rude and ignorant when you make these comments and try to shame other parents or convince new parents that they just need to keep training their baby and magically they’ll sleep great and if they don’t then they’re failing as parents. [/quote]

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