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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Hi so I’m a Christian and here is my response. So you have to remember that in much of Israel’s history they were a theocracy, meaning God was their leader instead of an human ruler like a king. So anything that was offensive to God could be punished. That is why you have verses like “don’t allow a sorceress to live” because witchcraft is directly offensive to God. Since he’s in charge, it is justified for Him to punish things that offend him.

And the big other thing you mentioned was various verses about God’s commandment to wipe out or drive out various people groups. Now on the surface it seems like God takes sides. I’d recommend you read about the post-Flood Nephilim, they really explain why there was so much killing and violence toward other nations.[/quote]

So you don't disagree those things are immoral, then?  Good, thanks for being honest.  It is genuinely appreciated.[/quote]

Different poster (although you said you don’t want either of us here). The quote is from the Old Testament. PP is a bible literalist, and they’re in the minority. Most Christians believe, as Jesus told us, that the New Testament supplants the Old, that violence is always wrong, that we should turn the other cheek, etc. [/quote]

Why would Christians believe that when Jesus said the opposite?:

“For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” — Matthew 5:18-19

“It is easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than for the smallest part of the letter of the law to become invalid.” (Luke 16:17)

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the law or the prophets. I have come not to abolish but to fulfill. Amen, I say to you, until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest part or the smallest part of a letter will pass from the law, until all things have taken place.” (Matthew 5:17)

“Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law” (John 7:19)[/quote]

The passage from Matthew, above, is the law according to Jesus. [/quote]

Can you cite that for us please?[/quote]

It’s already at 7:02. Ignoring all responses is exactly the bad faith on your part that stops people from engaging with you.[/quote]

Please accept the possibility that I simply don't understand how the 7:02 post cites a misinterpretation of the Matthew quote and explain it to me.[/quote][/quote]

It’s obvious on its face of you read carefully—or if you read it at all, which apparently you haven’t. Nobody is going to let you troll them like this. [/quote]

DP - 7:02 is a  list of quotes from Matthew.  Some Christians think citing chapter and verse of the Bible is sufficient explanation, with no need to explain their relevance.  It could also mean that they don't really understand themselves, so fall back on the "authority" of the Bible to avoid further discussion  [/quote]

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