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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]PP's advice is good. Even if it is taken off the record, IIRC, the forms for bar admission and clearance both ask for "arrests" so he'll still have to disclose which makes how he behaves after and onward a very important part of the picture.[/quote] I work in bar admissions and attorney ethics. This is unlikely to be an issue at all so long as it is disclosed in full and there is no evidence of an ongoing substance abuse issue. If there are multiple arrests then I probably would look for evidence that the issue has been addressed (ongoing treatment, AA, etc). He should understand that multiple arrests and/or a DUI will get a much harder look. And he should err on the side of disclosing this- don’t look for ways to withhold by trying to argue, for example, that the underage drinking is a “citation” not an “arrest or conviction” or some bs. It would be helpful to make sure you keep every scrap of paper related to this and if you ask now how to get a copy of certified records related to the arrest/conviction in the future (what you will be able to get from the police, from the court, etc). It also will be helpful to ask at what time the records may be destroyed- for a minor arrest they likely will be within a few years and you don’t want to be stuck. The police report is particularly helpful because it describes the conduct which led to the arrest. If your son in fact was not belligerent it will be good to have some support. I have seen instances where the applicant says he was just arrested out of the blue and the police report says, for example, he was throwing punches or verbally harassing someone or whatever. That can be a candor issue (the police report isn’t necessarily dispositive but it is going to raise questions) and generally is just a pain because then I have to go back and figure out if something else is going on. And I’ll likely generally take a harder look at whatever the applicant has given me. I will also look for evidence that he completed whatever the penalty was - a MADD or first time offender course, payment of all fines. In bar admissions at least the burden is on the applicant to affirmatively demonstrate fitness and good moral character. I imagine it’s the same for a security clearance. I know you’re more focused on the security clearance but that’s my approach.[/quote]
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