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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]"My kid's score:
NNAT:131
CoGAT: 134
GBRS: 3O, 1F
The reasoning/commentary by teacher and grades each quarter were great, however AAP marked as ineligible. DRA: 28. What are my options here so that I can get my kid to be considered for AAP? Kid is good at communication and got a certificate, kid participated in spelling bee and was only 1 from the class to be selected, good at constructive/out of box thinking. "

Those are good scores and in most programs we would say that they are excellent scores. But in FCPS there are kids with far higher scores who did not get into AAP. The scores are in pool but right at the cut off for in pool and we don't know what the sub section scores are. Earning a certificate may or may not be a big thing, my kid participated in the Virginia Reads program and got a certificate. It is not that big a deal, what is the certificate in. Participating in a spelling bee is cool but not really that exciting.

The comments are always going to be positive, your childs teacher sent a message to the committee by giving your child three occasionally on the GBRS. The teachers are not going to write negative comments. They know that parents can get the packets and are not going to risk saying that a child is not a good fit for these reasons. So the comments are going to be positive. The occasionally markings indicate that the teacher does not think your child is a good fit because they only sometimes see the characteristics that AAP is looking for in its students.

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It would save a lot of time if they had test cutoffs--e.g., reading level of 28 and 98th percentile is an automatic in, or something like that.[/quote]

But that’s going backwards. These types of programs used to get filled that way. People finally came to realize test scores aren’t everything and they need to look at more. Yes, it is harder and difficult to ensure consistency, but that doesn’t mean going back to the old way is better. I think they genuinely do the best they can and allowing appeals and referrals every year in addition to outside testing (i.e. WISC, SB, etc) as well as allowing one re-test is a pretty good attempt to ensure catching kids.[/quote]

No test scores are not everything and the tests can be prepped but they could set a standard that guarantees admission, maybe a NNAT and CogAT 142 or higher is automatic admission. While the tests can be prepped, those are high enough scores that a kid who prepped was most likely in the 99th percentile anyway (around a 132) and likely very smart if not gifted.

Set an in pool score that requires GBRS from teachers, the current NNAT and CogAT of 132. Parents can choose to write a letter or not but that bench mark is still there for kids who may be a good fit and whose parents are not as aware that the program exists.

Allow for parent referrals for anyone not in pool using the methods that are used today.

This would decrease the number of packets that AART have to put together and GBRSs that teachers have to complete and the number of packets that are reviewed.

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I like the holistic approach. I don’t think a high score should automatically get you in. There are always ways to beat the test. I think looking at work samples and teacher comments is important too.[/quote]

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