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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]To give you an idea of how much downtime there is if a kid takes 3 classes per quarter - my DC is also an athlete w 4-5 hours of practice a day plus also a research assistant and a TA and part of a social club. To do all this, you need discipline in time management.[/quote] That's true but a kid doesn't have to do athletics or sign up for multiple activities. If all you did was three classes plus may be one EC, there's plenty of non class time to focus on papers and studying. My point is that to a large degree the schedule pressure can be self-driven. Unless you are on work-study. [/quote] Don’t you generally need 4 courses about half the time (and 3 the other half) to accumulate enough credits to graduate in 4 years? Also, workload may be a function of number/selection of courses (with the latter not always in the student’s control, both because lots of (STEM?/core) courses are sequences and because undergrads do get shut out of top choice classes), but pace is a function of the length of the term. [/quote] DC is a STEM double major and hasn't had an issue with course shut out as an undergraduate. I do have the impression that sometimes he's gone to a professor to be enrolled but so far it's worked out. Overall I get the impression that the faculty goes out of their way to be supportive. However, I don't believe they pamper and that is an important distinction. Numerically, I'm sure there are quarters where 4 classes are needed but honestly there are courses at every university that aren't a lot of work. I'm not involved enought to know the # courses but if he can graduate in 3 years, it can't be all that bad. His friends are having the same experience. This is the age that they should go forth with their educations with no fear. Is it a school for everyone? Of course not. No school is. I will say that the work can be hard but the peer group is supportive and friendly. It's not a cut throat environment. A good place for kids who want a hard academic workout whatever that means on their terms.[/quote] My DC is also a STEM major and has had to wait a year for a course in the major and has also routinely not gotten specific ARTs core offerings when desired. My broader point, though, is sequences, prerequisites, and caps on course size (as well as scheduling conflicts generally) mean that it’s a myth that in the quarters when you must take 4 courses you can always put together a collection of 4 easy courses. Judging from what you’ve said, I believe your kid was admitted the same year as my kid. [b]Rules about AP credits have changed since then and an additional on campus credit minimum has been established. [/b](My DC, too, could graduate in three years — I suspect the University is trying to make that harder since it’s a money-losing proposition for them in most cases). Agree that the faculty are generally very supportive (a number have been amazingly so). And undergrads are supportive of each other. But that not infrequently means a bunch of stressed/depressed kids huddling together for warmth. And/or the least stressed kid feeling compelled to help others worse off vs focus on their own work. How/whether/to what extent these issues will affect any particular kid going to UChicago varies, of course, but they are real issues (and not a function of drive or academic ability or fear) and should be taken into account. [/quote] [b]There’s no credit given for AP’s @ Chicago[/b] & no outside credit is accepted. Is that what you meant? [/quote] I'm not sure this is correct. From U of Chicago's website. http://collegecatalog.uchicago.edu/thecollege/examinationcreditandtransfercredit/ [b]Advanced Placement Credit[/b] Students who request college credit or fulfillment of College requirements for Advanced Placement (AP) examinations taken in high school (i.e., before a student matriculates in the College) are asked to submit an official report of their scores on the AP tests given by the College Entrance Examination Board. The decision to grant credit is reported at the end of the first year in residence and units of credit awarded appear on the student’s official academic record. While AP scores alone are sometimes used to establish placement or to confer credit, satisfactory performance on the College’s own placement tests may supplement AP scores and lead to additional credit. The following chart shows how AP credit is automatically awarded. For further information on how credit may be used toward individual degree programs, a student should consult his or her College adviser. For more information on how AP credit may be used to meet major requirements, refer to the major requirements listed under “Programs of Study” in this catalog. NOTE: For students matriculating in Autumn 2017 or later, at least 3800 units of credit must be earned by course enrollment, i.e., not credit by examination. For students matriculating in Autumn 2018 or later, only scores of 5 on approved tests will confer language competency. Students who matriculated prior to 2017 should refer to the Advanced Placement credit table in the catalog of their year of matriculation for earlier guidelines regarding AP credit. Archived catalogs can be found here. Art History 5 100 units general elective credit Biology 4 100 units general education (BIOS 10130) Biology 5 100 units general education (BIOS 10130)+ Calculus AB 5 MATH 15100 placement Calculus BC 4 MATH 15200 placement Calculus BC 5 MATH 15200 placement † Chemistry 5 CHEM 11100* Economics: Micro AND Macro 5 100 units general elective credit English Language and Composition 5 100 units general elective credit English Literature and Composition 5 100 units general elective credit Government and Politics: Comparative AND U.S. 5 100 units general elective credit History: European 5 100 units general elective credit History: U.S. 5 100 units general elective credit History: World 5 100 units general elective credit Music Theory 5 100 units general elective credit Physics C: Mechanics AND E&M 5 PHYS 12100-12200 ‡ Physics C: Mechanics only 5 PHYS 12100 ‡ Physics C: E&M only 5 PHYS 12200 ‡ Statistics 5 STAT 22000++ Studio Art (2-D Design, 3-D Design, or Drawing) 5 100 units general elective credit Chinese Language and Culture; French Language and Culture; German Language and Culture; Italian Language and Culture; Japanese Language and Culture; Latin (Literature or Vergil); Spanish Language and Culture; Spanish Literature and Culture 5 Satisfies the Language Competency Requirement [/quote]
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