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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]RMSC coaches remind more of security guards in a prison than mentors. Few have competitive swimming experience themselves. [/quote]

Not sure which site of RSMC you were talking about.    We have been KSAC exactly three years and certainly know most coaches there.

Coach Jamie Grimes swam at a college team and he also qualified for Olympic Trials in the 1500m freestyle in 2000 and 2004. 
Coach Kent Williams swam at a college team
Coach Michal Morris  swam at a college team
Coach Kevin Mejia swam at a college team

My kid joined KSAC three years ago this time as a novice swimmer (had never been any summer team).   He went to Juniors and Advanced Juniors and now aged up to Senior Training Group.    Moving up decisions are not only based on meet results even though they are important part.   Coaches also look at the attendance, practices performance as well.

It is extremely hard to move up into elite groups like NDG/NTG, but other groups are good enough for most swimmers, certainly for mine.    Most swimmers won't even make to college teams anyway.  If my kid can swim for high school team,   I will be very happy! [/quote]

[b]I'm curious if you are a parent that just drops the kids off or stays[/b].  If you observe some of the sessions, there is very little coaching and kids just do laps.  They spend half the time goofing off and waiting for directions.  The only way for kids to progress is with private instruction.

If you've done swim clinics or camps, you will see a huge difference in the coaching.

The lower level kids basically get ignored and there is no support on technique or strokes.  They are very focused on the top kids and the rest of the kids are just money makers.  The lanes are overcrowded.

And, just because you swam college level does not mean you know how to coach.  There is more to standing at the side of the pool barking orders the kids don't hear as they are too busy bobbing up and down.[/quote]

I stay all the time.  I often see coach Kelley corrects kids (Minis)  I also often see Coach Connie (who is "notoriously" known being tough/strict on kids) does that too.    Coaching on techs and skills are often done through drills.   Through drills, and swimming laps coaches can see kids problems and correct them.

Yes, good swimmers are not necessary good coaches, but often good swimmers can become good coaches I mentioned these coaches were college swimmers because some poster said some RMSC coaches themselves were not good swimmers.

Of course, good (often pricey) private lesson can help a lot more because it is one to one.   I know some parents do give their swimmers private lessons but I don't.  My goal is to keep my kid to swim through high school, and as long as he is happy to go to practice (yes, he is willing to do the early morning practice at 4:45AM !)

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Wait till later years beyond Mini's.  Things change. Many of us supplement with private lessons for the stroke as its the only way to progress.  If your child is naturally talented they may not need it but otherwise, some of ours do.

None of the coaches are great coaches given we have had great coaches in other settings/camps/clinics.

This kids can barely hear the coaches so how much correction do you think they are getting given the set up of the pool and a coach screaming at them on deck.[/quote]

+1000000000. Rmsc minis is great, but after that, time to flee. The coaching is nonexistent at best, emotionally damaging at worst. We left for ncap. I loved the idea of rmsc but couldn't subject my child to it after minis. [/quote]

It doesn't bother my child so we stay because of cost.  I'd rather do swim camps and private lessons but we have considered leaving.  NCAP is the recommended on to go to but they are significantly more money.[/quote]

Try first making it into NCAP or a fast group at another good club from RMSC juniors....[/quote]

Is NCAP really that much better?  Which one are you doing?  We considered them but my child likes the kids at RMSC and we are paying for private lessons.  I don't ever expect them to be a superstar.  What is the difference between them beyond smaller groups and cost (twice as much in later years).[/quote]

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