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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]The biggest myth is that the Ivy League is some sort of association that means "schools that are the best." [b]It's a football league, plain and simple[/b].

There's no merit-based criteria for getting into it. [/quote]

And there you have the biggest myth of all.[/quote]

How is that a myth? It's literally true.

Do you honestly think Ivy League schools confer a better education than, say, MIT, Stanford, UChicago, etc.? Do you think they open more doors, career-wise, than those schools? If you do, you're sorely deluded. [/quote]

Agreed. [b]MIT, Cal Tech[/b], and Stanford all offer a better return on investment than the Ivy League.  If you want prestige AND a good ROI, you should look outside the Ivy League.

https://www.payscale.com/college-roi[/quote]

We looked at both of these schools and actually know someone who a) went to MIT as an undergraduate and b) teaches at Cal Tech. They both said the majority of students on both of these campuses are graduate students, so it has a different feel than a primarily undergraduate campus. Great schools, but just know going in what the flavor of the campus will be.[/quote]

Nearly every R1  in America has a graduate population that dwarfs the undergraduate population—Stanford, Berkeley, UCLA, etc. you name it. [/quote]

Not Princeton

Total	Undergraduate	Graduate
Total	8,273	5,394	2,879

Not Brown

Undergraduate: 6,670
Graduate: 2,494

Not Dartmouth

Undergraduate: 4,410
Graduate/professional: 2,099

Not BC
UG 9358 Grad 3154

Not George Mason
Undergraduates	24,149 (2017–2018)
Postgraduates	10,358 (2017–2018)

Not Northeastern
Undergraduates	17,923 (Fall 2016)
Postgraduates	7,543 (Fall 2016)

Not RPI
Undergraduates	6,590
Postgraduates	1,329

Not Rutgers
Undergraduates	32,206 (2016)
Postgraduates	8,514 (2016)

Not Stony Brook
Undergraduates	17,474 (Fall 2018)
Postgraduates	8,762 (Fall 2018)

Not Berkeley (sorry)
Undergraduates	30,853 (fall 2018)
Postgraduates	11,666 (fall 2018)

Not UCLA
Undergraduates	32,403 (Fall 2018)
Postgraduates	13,025 (Fall 2018)

Sorry I got tired of looking, but at the ones I chose to check more than half had more UGs than grad students.
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