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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Who says the CES test is weighted higher than other criteria? I don't think that's true. They've provided a list of criteria used but never talked about whether one thing is more important than the next thing.

For the middle schools they used a complicated formula that even included creating percentiles for some tests based on the socieoeconomic tier of the location of your home MS. They've never said whether they did the same for ES or not.[/quote]

Because I know :-)

What about a child who has 99% map but didn't do too well in the CES test? Does he/she have a good chance of getting into a local center?[/quote]

When we went through, our child at 99% two grade levels up and scored a 97% on the test was wait-listed.[/quote]

[b]In general, the CES test score reflects natural aptitude whereas a higher map indicates outside enrichment. That's why the former carries more weight.[/b] [/quote]

Correct. As you know, IQ tests and their ilk are deemed aptitude tests which measure innate ability to problem-solve, whereas PARCC, MAPs and school quizzes are achievement tests which measure how much knowledge has been learned. The Cogat test, which is condensed from its original form and used as CES testing material, is supposed to be similar to an IQ test. It has verbal, number and figural categories and supposedly you cannot prepare for it. In reality, you can always familiarize yourself with aptitude testing material and gain a few points, which is why a tiny minority of parents "prep". However once the child reaches their ceiling, prepping more won't magically generate a higher score.

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I agree both types of tests have their value but it is important to understand the distinction.

I can only guess how the decision committee uses these but I see little distinction between 99% and high-90s map since both demonstrate a grasp of key material and the distinction is mostly a matter of outside enrichment. CogAt+Inview, however, are a different story.[/quote]

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