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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Of course people will still apply. It’s one of the best colleges in the US. This was not in the admissions department of any of the schools mentioned. It was bad actors in the athletics departments of the schools. The Georgetown coach was involved with at least 12 students. Will it affect Georgetown?

Last year, we saw the stories about deferral/rejections from donors to UVA being kicked back to UVA admissions to “take another look”. Those kicked back were for donating families in the several hundred thousand dollar range. This was in the UVA admissions office. Ironically, that 500k spent by Loughlin would have legally bought her a spot at UVA easily. For a spot at USC, Stanford, Yale, Georgetown, that 500k open donation won’t work.

UVA is a top public college. It’s still just that, a state school. All state schools are predominantly state residents; though Michigan does seem to be raising its OOS presence every year. The UC’s have 40 million residents to draw from. UVA isn’t even the best engineering school in its own state. Is Michigan? The only Public University’s that maybe belong in the top 30 are Berkeley, UCLA, and Michigan. And yes, I said maybe in the top 30. Graduate school is a different story. UVA’s Medical, Law, and Business schools keep their ranking high.

The top 30 colleges in the US are private’s and the top LAC’s;

Start with the Ivy’s and work your way up from the South, North, and out West.

Ivy’s - Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Columbia, Penn, Dartmouth, Brown, Cornell (8). 
South - Duke, Vanderbilt, Emory (3)
DC/North - Georgetown, Johns Hopkins, Notre Dame, Chicago, Northwestern, Carnegie Mellon, MIT, NYU, Tufts (9)
West - WUSL, Rice, Stanford, Cal Tech, USC (5)
LAC’s - Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore (3)

That’s 28 right there. I[b]s anyone seriously going to choose UVA over any of these schools if cost isn’t an issue? You can start throwing in the Public’s around the mid to high twenties, and that list begins with Berkeley, UCLA, Michigan. Then the next tier of Public schools like UVA, GA Tech, UNC, UF, UT, UWash, UWisc. But they’re mixed in with the next layer of Private’s and LAC’s. [/quote]

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Note to parents: Please disregard this poster.  They have an elitist problem with state universities and don't know what they are talking about. They also don't know all the problems at USC over the last two decades (just google it - USC News - USC tried to move itself up the USN&WR ladder too fast and the sh*t is hitting the fan).  The UVA story isn't true - WaPo did one of it's alleged undercover journalism pieces which led to nowhere and nothing.  So disregard the WaPo piece if they come back with it.  Also, there has been a changeover in President and Admissions at UVA.

The simple fact is that UVA has been the no. 1 2 or 3 public university in the USN&WR for the last 17 years.  It has often tied with UCLA for no 1.  In 2019 the line up is 1) UCLA ; 2) Berkeley; 3) UVA.  In 2017 UVA was no. 2.  The three have been playing footsie for those top three slots for a long time.  They are followed by 4) UC Santa Barbara; 5) UNC Chapel Hill; 6) UCIrvine; 7) Georgia Tech and so on.https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/top-public. UMD at 22.  USN&WR has been the gold standard for rankings for decades and continues to be.  If you are fortunate enough to get in by in-state or OOS to any of these schools on the USN@QR list GO, get xlnt grades and bank the difference for what really counts: Grad School, which is approaching $100K a year for some institutions.  The private schools that PP is listing are now upwards of $75 to $80K a year and climbing.  That's an obscene amount of money in after-tax dollars.  This is why private institutions are rapidly becoming the provence of the rich and the full freight students (no MC or UMC students). The first thing any good public or private college counselor should tell parents is to look hard at your family's finances first (and additional costs of other children going thru the college system sequentially, taking care of aged parents, saving for retirement, etc.) and figure out what is affordable BEFORE you dangle a $75K a year place in front of your child.  Merit scholarships don't exist at most of the Ivies or are drying up so don't count on anything merit.  Run the calculators on the school's websites.  Learn about FAFSA and CSS.  A good counselor will also tell you to exhaust your in-state options first if they meet your needs.  Any of the California schools as OOS is a great move but the number of those seats will be dwindling as 80% of the seats go to in-state Californians.  Also, and I know DCUM doesn't want to hear it but one of the smartest ways to get a great education is the Virginia community college system followed by guaranteed admission to the UVA University of your choice if your students takes the required courses and gets a certain GPA.  Make sound financial decisions.  Grad school will be upon you before you know it.  Whatever you do, do not pay $75K a year for your kid to go to a party school. The goal here is to get a great record and great recommendations to go on to a professional school or do grad work.  It is not to let junior get drunk and play with the girls.

There are many xlnt resources out there. Start with your school's counselor and Naviance, if you have it but allocate for the fact that the numbers of applications to state schools (and indeed all schools) keeps rising as do the requisite SAT/ACT and GPA.  There are many excellent books on selecting the right school for your child within your financial means.[/quote]

The problem with everything you are saying is that you keep referring to USNWR. That list is a scam itself. [/quote]

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