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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I would challenge your assertion that a consultant is a waste of money based on the logic you provided primarily because the essays you read or the resumes that you review are probably enhanced by a parent, an uncle/aunt, or another relative.  I suspect that those are the ones that you would catch.  I didn't even know that this industry existed before this big story broke in the news yesterday.  Wouldn't a college consultant be more surreptitious anyhow and know how the game is played?

For example, the guy that is being convicted (Singer?) gave advice to some parents who photoshopped their son's head on someone else's body (to show that their kid was a water polo stud) that they should find a different picture because the picture of the body was way too high out of the water and only a few athletes are able to get that kind of height in the water.  [b]My point is that these college consultants know what admissions folks or coaches are looking for and make the [insert essay, resume, athlete picture, etc] believable.  
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That's true but it's dishonest and unethical.  Thankfully, some daylight is now being shed on these despicable practices.
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I'm the PP you are responding to.  The argument is not whether these consultants are dishonest or unethical, it's whether people spending huge amounts of $ on private college consultants is a waste of money.  I am not so naive to think that the people who are running these scams are not good at their job...that's why they get paid the big big bucks.

Now I agree with you, those that cross the line, are unethical and dishonest.  But I have to believe that there are some that are good, maybe not many.  That said, I don't see the difference between college consultants and lawyers.  Lawyers know the game (law), they know the players (judges), and know how to play the game to their client's advantage.  Isn't that the same thing here with college consultants?  And by the way, I think that parents or relatives that over help on their kid's essays, application, etc are in a way cheating as well.  There is another thread asking about who helped with your college application back in the day when you were applying to college and no one is calling out parents who do more work than the child in filling out a college app.

As a parent of a couple elementary school kids, this subject is demoralizing because the entire game is stacked against the average joe.  
  
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If you realize the admissions boost that legacy and recruited athlete categories are given by elite universities when compared to unhooked, non-athlete, in other words, the majority of the applicants you will be even more demoralized to the point that you may contemplate throwing the towel and have your children apply only to state flagships.  Giving boost to legacy, athletes, big donors, influential people is immoral and unethical though legal.  It is like state sanctioned slavery, segregation, denying voting rights, redlining - they were all legal at sometime in the past but they were never moral or ethical. [/quote]

SO DRAMATIC!!!!  Of course the system built by the rich founders of the ivy league and other elite schools favors the elite.  Your education was just too poor for you to realize it.  If you want to change the system attacking legacy, athletes and URM is the least likely way to actually end favortism.  It will just move to another path that is obvious to everyone on the inside and not to everyone on the outside.  How dumb are you not to realize that different people faced different obstacles.[/quote]

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