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[quote=Anonymous][quote=RantingSoccerDad][quote=Anonymous][quote=RantingSoccerDad][quote=Anonymous][quote=RantingSoccerDad][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]LMVSC?[/quote]

Why not?  Their older teams are doing really well and have some really talented players that should probably be getting more attention.  The younger teams also have lots of potential and they seem to have coaches that really care about developing the individual players while trying to play quality soccer instead of kick and run.  The diversity in the community that feeds LMVSC is passionate about soccer and could possibly support a lower division team if clubs were given the opportunity to enter an open system of promotion/relegation.[/quote]

Here you go ...

https://rantingsoccerdad.com/all-about-promotion-relegation/ [/quote]

Thanks, but main point was why the poster had an issue with LMVSC being listed as a club and not the others.  Why is that club inferior to the others listed.  Yes it doesn't have DA, large $ resources, or as many  "high profile" coaches but is doing more with less.  2 of the clubs listed play kick ball most of the time and rely mostly on player's size and physicality.[/quote]

That's fair enough -- I probably should've responded to a different post. And I like LMVSC.

To respond again to the wrong post, here's a word about investment in lower divisions:

https://twitter.com/NipunChopra7/status/1039880957069877248 [/quote]

Thanks for posting this.  It confirms that the open system creates strong incentives to invest in lower divisions even in countries without much prior soccer history/culture.   An open system is superior to the closed single-entity pro league that the US soccer adopted.  [/quote]

It actually doesn't, at all, and even the Deloitte report pointed to the fact that a lot of investment has been made because the system is closed.

I'd like to see us move toward an open system, but robotic spewing of talking points isn't going to help.

To get closer to the topic at hand, I *would* like to see more clubs with senior teams, integrating youth and adult teams. Why wouldn't LMVSC or Alexandria or Arlington enter an adult team in the WPL? And we're starting to see some national frameworks emerge (not all of them in the hands of people who know what they're doing, but baby steps), so perhaps such a club really could play at a half-decent level one day.

We're decades away from any possibility of an LMVSC climbing the ladder to D2 or so -- the AFC Wimbledons of the world are rare and built on the ashes of a previous club, and the Hoffenheims of the world require a zillionaire investor who, in the U.S. model, would simply buy up a ton of real estate, build his own stadium, and join MLS -- but I don't see any reason why some enterprising people can't create a league with a good Arlington-Christos rivalry.[/quote]

It costs more than $150 million to buy your way into the MLS, and even then only if you kiss Don Garber's ring, and you're a better ring kisser than all the others trying to kiss his ring.

It would cost a lot less to invest in a lower division club in the US, but why?  No matter how well you do, you still can't move to a higher division without that $150mn and ring kissing.  So why spend the money in the first place, and even if you do own a lower division club, how much money are you really going to put into it, with little hope of a ROI no matter how well that money is spent?

And yes, there are North American investors interested in putting their millions into lower division soccer.  Michael Eisner:  https://variety.com/2017/tv/global/disney-michael-eisner-portsmouth-soccer-1202514705/   Steve Nash:  https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2016/01/05/vancouver-whitecaps-part-owner-steve-nash-buys-stake-real-mallorca

And there are others.  Imagine if this kind of money were invested here:  https://www.fourfourtwo.com/us/features/american-owners-world-soccer-clubs-football-beyond-premier-league

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