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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]"6) NPL and CCL both have their faults but NPL is really struggling. Virginia Rush left this past year, NVSC the year before. PWSI, VSA, and both Richmond teams are looking to join CCL. The reality of the situation is that DA and ECNL have made both these leagues 3rd tier. Both can't continue to exist on the same level and NPL is rapidly falling behind. " Someone posted this on another thread. Any truth to this? I would think it would be the end of VPL if true. With DA/ECNL being the elite, the biggest/established clubs in the region would have their top teams in CCL and some (those w DA/ECNL) their second. Besides EDP D1 having some really good teams because their clubs are not big enough or not interested in being in a regional league I think CCL could become the 2nd tier after DA/ECNL. Not sure EDP is ready to be that besides for a few teams. NCSL is too disorganized, stuck in their old ways, to lure any of these club's top teams back into their league. As of last year they still required scores to be emailed to a volunteer which is pretty archaic at this point. Eventually the D1 teams in NCSL will leave for EDP which will lower the level of the league even more.[/quote] This doesn't make sense to me at all. CCL isn't really a regional league in its current form, despite the way they bill themselves. It's a local league that covers a different territory than NCSL, and doesn't seem to be particularly effective in developing kids or popular among parents. You really need a pro-rel league like NCSL or a new improved version of NCSL to give decent opportunities to players in our area, and that league would feed players to EDP. I'm sure that clubs' top teams would be perfectly happy to play there if CCL goes away and the clubs that are in CCL now stop promoting it as if it's some great option. In terms of NCSL being poorly run, it has been a while since my kids play there, but I know there was a lot of dissatisfaction with its lack of flexibility in the old days. I recently read that the league hired a new executive director (https://www.soccerwire.com/notes/ncsl-hires-ryan-rich-as-leagues-first-ever-executive-director/) who seems to have a good resume. Maybe he could work on improving the problems that have caused dissatisfaction. Ranting Soccer Dad, if you are reading this, I'd be curious to know if you've met the new NCSL executive director. I would love to hear what he thinks about the needlessly fragmented state of our local landscape, and whether he has any ideas for improving the situation.[/quote] What if CCL with the addition of some of the other clubs from VPL created a promotion relegation D1/D2? That would create a new level of competition within the league. As for not developing players I see many players going into DA teams that come from CCL clubs. Not exclusively from CCL but many do and their teams do well in State Cup (I understand no DA) which includes all teams outside of the "elite".[/quote] Even VPL and CCL merged, it still does not solve the problem of the closed system. Even promotion and relegation in a closed system does not fully solve the problem of stagnation within a closed system. Additionally, if a club has a team in one age group that gets relegated and another team in another age group stays in the top division, the club will have different age groups play against different clubs. So the whole concept of club vs club games goes out of the window. [/quote] Promotion/relegation is only good for team and coaches not players. [/quote] The rest of the world disagrees.[/quote] I like the CCL concept/organization and have seen many talented teams out there and others not so good. I also believe in promotion/relegation. The problem is that it's unlikely that these different leagues such as CCL/EDP/VPL/NCSL/ODSL will ever sit down to determine what is the best for the game in our area outside of DA so we have to make which ever choice is best for DC or even ourselves. In the rest of the world there is a federation that establishes how the game should be run from the professional to youth level. In this country there is no such thing and even the state associations do nothing in their area do enforce the way the youth game should be set-up. They allow all different types of leagues to be created and separate the talent instead of bringing it together. In my opinion for VA there should be multiple regions with as many divisions as necessary within each region to accommodate all teams. Above those regional there would be a state league with x amount of divisions (let's say 3). The bottom x teams in Division 3 of state league drop down to D1 of regional league and the top x teams from regional leagues move up to D3. All with the possibility of reaching the State League D1. The winner of the State League D1 would be the State champion and compete against other states in the Championship Series. Yes it would remove the need for the current State Cup but at least all teams would compete for the opportunity to move or down regardless of what club they belong to.[/quote]
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