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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]"6) NPL and CCL both have their faults but NPL is really struggling. Virginia Rush left this past year, NVSC the year before. PWSI, VSA, and both Richmond teams are looking to join CCL. The reality of the situation is that DA and ECNL have made both these leagues 3rd tier. Both can't continue to exist on the same level and NPL is rapidly falling behind. " Someone posted this on another thread. Any truth to this? I would think it would be the end of VPL if true. With DA/ECNL being the elite, the biggest/established clubs in the region would have their top teams in CCL and some (those w DA/ECNL) their second. Besides EDP D1 having some really good teams because their clubs are not big enough or not interested in being in a regional league I think CCL could become the 2nd tier after DA/ECNL. Not sure EDP is ready to be that besides for a few teams. NCSL is too disorganized, stuck in their old ways, to lure any of these club's top teams back into their league. As of last year they still required scores to be emailed to a volunteer which is pretty archaic at this point. Eventually the D1 teams in NCSL will leave for EDP which will lower the level of the league even more.[/quote] This doesn't make sense to me at all. CCL isn't really a regional league in its current form, despite the way they bill themselves. It's a local league that covers a different territory than NCSL, and doesn't seem to be particularly effective in developing kids or popular among parents. You really need a pro-rel league like NCSL or a new improved version of NCSL to give decent opportunities to players in our area, and that league would feed players to EDP. I'm sure that clubs' top teams would be perfectly happy to play there if CCL goes away and the clubs that are in CCL now stop promoting it as if it's some great option. In terms of NCSL being poorly run, it has been a while since my kids play there, but I know there was a lot of dissatisfaction with its lack of flexibility in the old days. I recently read that the league hired a new executive director (https://www.soccerwire.com/notes/ncsl-hires-ryan-rich-as-leagues-first-ever-executive-director/) who seems to have a good resume. Maybe he could work on improving the problems that have caused dissatisfaction. Ranting Soccer Dad, if you are reading this, I'd be curious to know if you've met the new NCSL executive director. I would love to hear what he thinks about the needlessly fragmented state of our local landscape, and whether he has any ideas for improving the situation.[/quote] What if CCL with the addition of some of the other clubs from VPL created a promotion relegation D1/D2? That would create a new level of competition within the league. As for not developing players I see many players going into DA teams that come from CCL clubs. Not exclusively from CCL but many do and their teams do well in State Cup (I understand no DA) which includes all teams outside of the "elite".[/quote] Even VPL and CCL merged, it still does not solve the problem of the closed system. Even promotion and relegation in a closed system does not fully solve the problem of stagnation within a closed system. Additionally, if a club has a team in one age group that gets relegated and another team in another age group stays in the top division, the club will have different age groups play against different clubs. So the whole concept of club vs club games goes out of the window. [/quote] good point regarding the club vs club play. Although it's a closed system, in theory the larger clubs should be able to develop/attract better players and coaches along with the better organization of a league it could still be an attractive option for players/families. I'm all for promotion/relegation but I[b] just don't think NCSL is the way to go as the overall level just isn't there[/b]. [/quote] The overall level would be there if you didn't have leagues like CCL diluting the talent pool. It was once the destination for all the top kids at the younger age groups, and would be again if you got rid of CCL and NPL.[/quote]
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