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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I'm opposed to this type of thing. I was at a seminar for work, and at the lunch, someone gave a benediction thanking Jesus for the food. We were asked to bow our heads at the start of his little spiel, and when he got to the Jesus Christ part, I felt manipulated into participating in a Christian prayer that is antithetical to my beliefs. [/quote] I would have walked over and refilled my coffee cup and checked my phone until they were done. [/quote] And you would have looked exceptionally rude, immature and unprofessional to everyone in attendance, including all the grown up atheists, agnostics and people of non Christian religions.[/quote] No more unprofessional than someone shoving religion down your throat AT WORK. [/quote] Seriously. Would you believe I have to follow all sorts of rules about the kosher kitchen at work? Oh, wait. That's right. It's not a big deal and I'm fine following the rules to keep the kitchen and its contents kosher, even if I don't share any of the beliefs. I also don't freak out when there are invited (male) speakers who will shake the hands of men but not women. It's their religion, no skin off my nose.[/quote] You are CLUELESS. Being asked to follow the rules of a kosher kitchen does not violate your religious beliefs. A Jew being asked to pray in the name of "our Savior Jesus Chrisf" is being asked to violate his religious beliefs. Not the same thing at all. A better analogy would be if a Jew got up to give the benediction at a work function, asked all in attendance to bow their heads, and then lead a prayer affirming that Jesus was a mortal man and NOT the son of God. (Not that Jews have that kind of prayer. They make no reference to. Jesus at all.)[/quote] Unless they're holding a gun to your head and forcing you to pray, you're fine. I'm an atheist. When someone asks us to hold hands, or bow our heads, I know what's coming because I'm not an idiot. And I politely, quietly, respectfully, allow others to have their moment. No forced conversions yet, so I think we're doing ok. "Let us pray" or "Please bow your heads while I offer a blessing" are not followed by "or I'll kill you for being a heretic."[/quote] :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: [/quote] Wow. Does it have to be that obviously extreme for it to be inappropriate? Remember, this isn't in a person's private home (I've been invited to Christian homes for dinner and they do the Jesus thing, and I'm OK with it because it's their home) but NOT on the job. OK, would this be wrong: In a job setting, where there are gay married employees, for a speaker to get up at a lunch (where all employees are required to be) and say, "and we affirm that marriage is between a man and a woman, amen." Are they requiring the gay people to get divorced? To split up? To "change" their ways? NO. But they are telling them that they are wrong, and that is rude and insensitive. And because it is in a job setting, and a prayer the management approved, it is also conveying that the gay married people are "less than" the straight people, who have it right. Not a good message to send to employees. [/quote]
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