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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It depends on the firm. Not doing any at Arnold & Porter while hoping to last in the litigation group would be... an error.

In comparison I don't think Quinn gives a single eff. [/quote]

Really? Arnold & Porter?? I don't know the DC market as well as NYC but I've always thought the bigger/more reputable the firm was, the less time they wanted wasted on non billable work.[/quote]

In DC it is seen as reputation-enhancing, unlike in NY or London.

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In NY its seen as profit-diluting. In London its not seen at all. [/quote]

Got it. I definitely have the NYC mindset of -- why would anyone who wants to make partner do something profit diluting?? 7 yrs in NYC biglaw will do that to you. I didn't realize DC actually saw it as a positive thing.[/quote]

Of course it's a positive, especially for a litigator.  Junior and midlevel associates can get much more substantive experience through pro bono than through being staffed on a case in Big Law (everyone I know stood up for court the first time in a pro bono case, most people took their first depositions in pro bono cases, the firm I'm at now can guarantee you an argument in front of the 7th Circuit in one pro bono program), they get to choose and direct their own cases, they get to work with partners they otherwise might not get staffed with, it's positive exposure for the firm, and the hours get written off at tax time. [b] Honestly the people saying "but whut about money?" sound simpleminded. [/b] [b]Most of your time was getting written off until you were like a 4th year anyway, don't kid yourself about how much you were contributing to profits. [/b] And yes, I started in NYC too, and all of this was obvious (and stressed) there as well.[/quote]

The people saying it at my firm where the co chairs of litigation. Simple minded -- maybe. But I'm pretty sure their word counts for more than yours. And LOL no -- time isn't written off until you're a 4th yr. In what universe!? And IDK about you but my first depos and standing up in court on a minor motion were both while I was a junior associate and in federal court on a REAL case, not pro bono. Do what you want but don't act like your way is always accepted at every NYC firm bc it isn't.[/quote]

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