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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I can't trust Forbes if they don't post their calculated numbers for the individual schools. For all we know, it could be conjured up in thin air. It has a veneer of being reputable with HYPMS at the top, the Ivies all in the top 15, and a smattering of the most prestigious LACs (Pomona, Swarthmore, Williams, Amherst are usually considered the big 4 LAC, and all are ranked in the top 20). But rankings can't be based on just popular opinion. They have to be rooted on a methodology that can be reviewed by outsiders to ensure accuracy.

With US News, you see a component breakdown of everything resulting in the rating as it is. It helps understand and compare the difference between schools. [/quote]

So Forbes hates UChicago (and Northwestern) so much they dedicated resources to a college list so they could in the end screw the city of Chicago's top universities - is that what you're suggesting?[/quote]

Don't display your ignorance. Forbes is an output based ranking. It says nothing about "incoming student caliber or prestige"

One thing that Forbes values highly is "low student debt and high earning potential and career success". This favors colleges that have huge endowments that throw a lot of financial aid money at needy kids. Nothing wrong with that, it just skews the ROI calculation and hides the real cost of an elite education. To do an apples to apples comparison, they would have to do a ROI calculator for full pay vs non-full pay kids which they don't. Also since career success is correlated to your major, schools with engineering will usually be favored here over other schools.

Bottom line, Forbes is a completely different ranking system that does not try to measure student caliber or prestige at all. In fact they are proud of that, so using their ranking to justify the OP's clear bias and hatred for Chicago is pathetic.

USNews on the other hand is an input based ranking. It is all about prestige and academic caliber. So yes for what OP wants to measure, the USNews ranking is more credible.

Note that I am not saying these ranking systems are good, but if I were looking for Prestige and student caliber, Forbes is the last ranking you should be looking at. [/quote]

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