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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]To thwart shooters?[/quote]

Guards get killed too:
https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Report-Shooting-Census-Bureau-Headquarters-in-Md-299259981.html
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/06/10/museum.shooting/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_United_States_Capitol_shooting_incident

Semi-automatic pistol, rifle, and revolver used.

A legally purchased AR-15 can easily kill an armed guard.  This guy got off 70 rounds:
https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/06/politics/congressional-shooter-70-rounds/index.html

Amidst many trained secret service.  It's only sheer luck that people didn't actually die.[/quote]

Yup - the first person killed at the Navy Yard shooting (our local slaughter that was quickly forgotten) was an armed security guard.  But anything to make the case for more guns![/quote]

Ok so because it's not a perfect solution, let's instead do nothing. That's a MUCH better plan. And FYI -- screaming "gun control now" IS doing nothing because who knows when and if that'll ever get accomplished. What if it takes 2 more years or 25 more years? Is it really better to just keep marching and demonstrating and tweeting, rather than taking some concrete steps. No one is saying metal detectors + lives will save 100% of lives. But say it saves 50% or even 10% -- is that not worth it to you because it's not a full 100%? Wouldn't it be better if 8 of those 17 families or even 2 of those 17 families still had their kids/spouses/parents here?[/quote]

But what you are proposing simply hasn't worked so why waste time and money talking about it? Gun nuts love to point out the five times a year when one gun nut stops another gun nut from robbing a convenience store in Arkansas of $200 but those are rare exceptions.

We live in a country with lots of guns and lots of people.  Some of whom are mentally ill.  But other countries have lots of people including some who are mentally ill.  Only the US has regular school shootings.

And seriously where does it  end?  My teens regularly go to crowded movie theaters that are packed with other teens - do we need an armed guard at every door?

My eldest takes Metro to/from school on trains with hundreds of people - do we need armed guards on every single platform?

I get that there is something of a nexus here between unstable teenagers and schools but those unstable teenagers can find plenty of targets outside of school, including immediately outside of school if there ire is so focused.[/quote]

So because anything can happen anywhere, let's not bother to try to prevent even 50% of it or even 1% of it because it'll waste your time and money. I mean what's the difference -- 17 were lost, maybe only 16 could've been lost -- nah, too much trouble for 1 9th grader besides his fam has other kids so they'll get over it. I hope they open up the federal courthouses too. I mean why bother. The court security officers are just gun nuts trying to stop other gun nuts, it never works so -- nah -- come on in . . . .Got it.[/quote]

Yes, and let’s ban cars while we’re at it. [/quote]

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