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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous] The common factor is that for whatever reason, someone keeps picking the wrong people for the wrong reasons. I certainly did in my 20s- I passed on many wonderful men who would have been great husbands and fathers because of my own deep-seated issues such as codependency. I have male friends who do the same, often choosing women based on looks, unavailability, emotional problems, etc. And also, emotionally healthy people will pass on you if they sense you have issues (as many men have done to me). 
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From a guy's perspective, when women spend their 20s passing up good guys in favor of assholes, it looks like they prefer assholes when they're pretty, interested in sex, and have their pick of the litter. Even if they start avoiding the assholes in their 30s, it looks like that's because they're only settling because they are running out of options and are looking for a more asexual kind of stability in their relationships rather than the kind of assholes that really get their motor running.  [/quote]

No, you're confused.  Women like what you perceive as assholes but not because they are assholes. No one is excited about meeting or being with an asshole.  Women are going for them because they have SOME attractive qualities.  Like they are spontaneous, in touch with their emotions. unafraid to take charge of the evening, unafraid to speak up, have high self-esteem and don't put up with crap, or whatever. If a good guy had these same qualities on top of his good character, he'd have no trouble finding women.

Furthermore, I guarantee you that in your 20s, there were tons of unpopular, not-as-good-looking girls who would have loved your attention.  But you, as many other men, probably only wanted to go for the top of the litter.  [/quote]

In my 20s I was poor (grad student), tall, thin, awkward, low self-esteem.  I could only rarely get top-tier women so I ended up with nerdier, chubby (or fat) women, minority women, and women who were weird or not very successful themselves.  I ended up marrying one of these.

Now 30 years later I am divorced, and can easily date attractive women in their 20s-40s, who are thin, educated, and have good jobs.  It's amazing.  I should have skipped marriage.  I peaked somewhere around age 45.  I have a few male friends with similar experiences.  
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Those thin, hot, educated women in their 20s-40s would never even glance your way again if you were to become poor once more. No one is randomly hot for a 50-something dude, cause no matter how well-preserved you are, gravity and age catch up with us all. I'm sure you know this, though you probably don't care. :)[/quote]

Right? i'm sure if he were the best-looking cashier at McDonald's, he'd have just as many dates. riiight.
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