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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]WHY WOULD PEOPLE TAKE A TRAIN TO COMMIT A CRIME? Are they going to sit on the platform with all of their “loot” and wait 10 minutes for the next train going eastbound?[/quote] You really don't get out too much do you? Here's what happens in the real world. https://www.abc15.com/news/region-phoenix-metro/central-phoenix/data-crime-increasing-in-some-neighborhoods-along-phoenix-light-rail http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2015/09/10/serious-crimes-happening-on-light-rail-trains-platforms/ There's much more than just these two recent examples. [b]Statistics show crime near light rail is high across the country. [/b] Tbat is why this story is news worthy. The PL is coming from a gang infested areas and will bring with it crime and gang activity. [/quote] Which statistics show this, please?[/quote] Would also like to see these.[/quote] Here you go: Heavy rail and light rail are NOT the same for those of you yelling about Metro. "Light rail has a 50% higher violent crime rate than heavy rail" https://fee.org/articles/how-public-transit-undermines-safety/ http://freakonomics.com/2008/10/23/could-a-public-transit-boom-result-in-a-crime-boom/ In addition, in the past two years alone there a several dozen articles detailing the influx of violent crime near light rail staions in these cities Phoenix, Portland, LA, Minneapolis, Seattle, Baltimore, Dallas and and St. Louis to name just a few. A very small sampling: LA: http://www.surfsantamonica.com/ssm_site/the_lookout/news/News-2016/December-2016/12_06_2016_Theft_and_Similar_Crimes_Jump_More_50_Percent_Near_Santa_Monica_Expo_Line.html Portland: http://nomorefailedrail.com/failed-rail-news/ Dallas: http://www.dallasobserver.com/news/dangers-on-a-train-crime-goes-down-everywhere-except-on-dart-7108180 Too many to list. Google yourself. To be fair, there are studies that find a "neutral" impact on crime or say that it is tough to say for sure. But each one also points out that how the crimes are reported is a problem in getting proper numbers. There is under reporting and crimes that occur in close by neighborhoods and not actually in the stations are not counted at all in most occasions. But if you google, you will see hundreds of stories about light rail crime and the impact on communities all across the country. Anecdotal but impactful. Look, this train is coming for those of you who are fans but don't bury your heads in the sand about what this means for Bethesda and it's crime rate, property values, high taxes and eventual flight. [/quote] Metro is also light rail. Heavy rail is industrial rail traffic. Not only does commuter rail NOT increase crime, it likely DECREASES crime by providing increased economic opportunity and survielance. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-9906.2011.00564.x/abstract http://www.nctr.usf.edu/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/JPT17.4_Litman.pdf [/quote] Seriously? You have no idea what you are talking about. Please do the minimum research. Let's start with the FACT that Metro is heavy rail, not light rail. There is a serious difference. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Washington_Metro [/quote] While PP is wrong about definitions (metrorail IS heavy rail) he is correct that all existing studies show no increase in crime from transit, and none show an increase. All the accusastions (including the claim that light rail has a different impact than heavy rail) are anecdotal (I read the freakonimics piece, and it had no data- surprising for them). [/quote]
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