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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP, there's a thread in the parenting forum where people are being harsh to a mom  for disciplining her 4 yo for rudeness. The responders overwhelmingly felt the mom was too harsh for disciplining her child when the dc was very outwardly rude. Why? Because it's Christmas and kids should get their way and it fell into this horrible battle where the parents are calling the mom fat and narcissistic basically because she doesn't do Christmas the way they want her to (which is to give the kids free reign). These mom should are raising the the kids that are growing up to be bratty and get away with murder. They're scared to discipline. [/quote]

I have teens who are regularly complimented on their behavior and who aren't disrespectful. I don't have the discipline issues with my kids that I read about on DCUM. But I thought OP of the pancake thread was ridiculous (although I certainly did not call her names in any of my posts). Here, I think insisting on a hug from anybody is rude. Hugs are something you request -- demanding a hug is entitled behavior and the 11-year-old responded in kind. The 11-year-old was rude, no doubt (and in my house, refusing to say a verbal thank you after receiving a nice gift or having a nice dinner would have been immediately corrected). But the rudeness in this scenario started with OP (and that's the same story with pancake OP).

If you want to teach kids good manners, you have to show them good manners. [/quote]

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