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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]My neighbor's kid is doing Liberty University online and the mom has told me more than once that Liberty "has a 20% acceptance rate". I believe this is technically correct, at least for on-campus, but it has nothing to do with academic selectiveness. [/quote] Liberty is very popular among kids at our church, and they all tout it's low acceptance rate, but I don't know anyone who has ever been rejected. [/quote] I just looked up the common data set for Liberty on college data. It lists a 28% acceptance rate, but under entrance difficulty, it says this... Minimally Difficult: Most freshmen were not in the top 50% of their high school class and scored somewhat below 1010 on the SAT I or below 19 on the ACT; up to 95% of all applicants accepted. How do they reconcile this with the 28% acceptance rate listed? [/quote] Some seriously poor students apply? That is what the math suggests. My kid didn't apply to Liberty, despite being more than qualified. [/quote] PP who brought up the topic of Liberty. I would also guess that the ecclesiastical interview/ requirements have a lot to do with it, but I don’t know for sure. They’d be within their rights to reject a student who refuses to follow the dress code or honor code.[/quote] If the average SAT is 1010, it's not particularly selective, at least by typical academic measures. I've actually known people who have mentioned interest in Liberty. They were older, non-traditional students, who were often born-again later in life and are mostly from working/lower-middle class backgrounds. I assume Liberty appealed to them for a combination of religion, and the fact that it heavily promotes its online courses -- which is good for non-traditional students. More traditional state schools are more difficult to be admitted to and community colleges tend to have scheduling and resource challenges. They see Liberty as a better choice than outright for-profit schools. [/quote] I'm guessing that Liberty's applicant pool isn't scoring 1500 on the SATs. Not that religious people aren't smart, but because kids who score 1500s have tons of options are will probably try for more traditional selective schools--it's perfectly possible to be super-religious at an Ivy or SLAC. Liberty may not even take the kids with SAT=1500, knowing they will probably go elsewhere (yield protection). But at the end of the day, if Liberty gets 20,000 applicants with SATs of around 1010 and take 28% of them to build a class of 560, that 28% still means its selective. (I'm making these numbers up, I have no idea what the class size is.)[/quote]
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