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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I grew up in a pretty non religious place and no one I knew really took religion or god seriously, in fact it was weird if you did, and it still a functioning society with laws and justice etc.    I find all the current religious ideas of god very lacking.  I used to want to be religious, but now I'm very much at peace as an atheist.  like the PP I find the universe/nature awe-inspiring.   [/quote]

This is pretty much me. I had a close friend in middle school who was mildly religious and I joined her at church a few times out of curiosity and also went on a youth group trip. I liked the sense of community but never bought into the "faith" side. Around that same time I had some extended family members join a "born again" church and to me it they seemed like they went mad. Even now I really don't understand some of their actions. And they've been very hateful to me and other members of my family. 
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PP here - I can relate to that.  Praying in tongues the whole bit, raving on about sin and how god will punish us all for our sins and how every natural event is because god is angry...yeah.  it seems very odd to me too.

that said, I've known some religious people in my life who are fantastic people.  [/quote]
Well...

1. The speaking in tongues thing as it's practiced in pentecostal churches is not modeled on anything biblically. You can see the references to it in Acts as speaking a known language. This is not what is practiced in this strain of Christianity.
2. God will indeed punish unforgiven sin, but He gave us a way to be forgiven through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ. However, Christians are told to judge fellow believers, because believers are both a living temple of God and because they are a testimony of their belief. But we are not told to judge unbelievers. You can see this in 1 Corinthians 5:11-12. We are all sinners, and Christians are told to offer the good news of Christ's forgiveness, not condemnation.
3. Jesus said bad things will happen in this world, but he cautioned people against thinking that everything is a judgment, as in Luke 13:1-5. 
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The problem is that many believers haven't learned Christian theology enough to represent it at all points. We are supposed to learn and know this so we can be good witnesses for the faith.[/b] But the solution is not to not believe but to learn what Christianity truly teaches.[/quote]

This is a solution for people who are Christian or who want to become Christian or stay Christian.  It is not a solution for people who were never Christian or who have rejected Christianity or all religious belief.[/quote]
Maybe. But I was responding to the PP who listed some objections to what makes Christianity odd. But if those objections are not based on actual Christian theology, then that undercuts to some degree the refusal to believe. If you give me a bunch of things that makes you not believe Christianity, but those things are not really Christianity, it would be better if you understood what Christianity actually teachings, so that at least you know what you're objecting to.[/quote]

PP here whose relative spoke in tongues etc.     I really don't care what Christianity teaches or doesn't teach, or what people claim it teaches because most of you don't agree anyway.  You're assuming that I reject it on theological grounds.  I dgaf what theology says.   I find it interesting to learn about in an academic kind of way (I read a lot) but I see zero evidence in the world that this religion or any other has any bearing on reality.  YAY SCIENCE.  YAY UNIVERSE.

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