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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It just seems so unfair to me that some parents are spending a lot of money for college counselors to package their kids for acceptance into college. 
Just wondering if this really gives them any advantage over the rest of our kids - or if the admission committees can spot these applicants ans that is why the counselors are bemoaning the low acceptance rates for their clients.  If our kids stats were golden (including a major talent) why would we need you anyway?[/quote]

I don’t think college counselors are getting kids into HYPS.  What they probably are doing is encouraging families to consider early apps to other t10 or t20 schools as an alternative to an unhooked SCEA app.  And finding LACs and other schools where full pay and high stats are a winning combination or where ther3 is merit money available.

Personally as a white UMC parent, I’ve got no problem with a system in which only truly exceptional kids get into top colleges.  (That said, I don’t think that’s what we have — money, power & fame play too big a role).  And as a former prof and alumn interviewer, I can tell you that high standardized test scores and a high GPA aren’t any indication that a student is really talented.  Standardized tests set a low and arbitrary bar and the level of work that gets a student an A varies wildly by school/class.  “Perfect” stats may show discipline (internally or externally imposed), but they aren’t a sign of brilliance.  The good news is if your truly brilliant kid doesn’t get into HYPS, s/he will still be truly brilliant and there are so many other excellent universities where s/he can flourish.  I’ll also add that a diverse student body benefits everyone at the school and that it has *never* been my experience (teaching/studying in 4 top tier schools) that URM students were underqualified or less capable than their white classmates.  (Athletes, on the other hand....)[/quote]

Do you mean URM athletes or all athletes?[/quote]

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