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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I am not an expert researcher. But the article is missing some data that I want. The article is using college age population for each group as the base. I don't want that to be the only information I'm given. I would like to know what percent of the total population base of each group has even applied to college at all. Does that make sense? Maybe the % is the same if you compare it to total number of college applicants rather than total percent of college age kids of each group. [/quote] I think that's a really good point and would make a tremendous difference to the figures. "College aged" is not sufficient it is a blanket group which will include non-English speakers, kids who dropped out of high school aged 16 or thereabouts and those who went into trades with no intention of ever attending college. Its not a detailed enough category.[/quote] No, that's entirely the point. You start from the premise that all kids are equally educable. Not that some people by virture of their skin color drop out at higher rates. [/quote] Its still too broad. How can you consider all "college aged" kids from certain ethnic backgrounds and compare with only those who applied and attended these colleges? That's skewed. If that is the category required, it should look at ALL "college aged" kids, including all the white drop outs and trade school learners.[/quote] Why is it too broad? The WHOLE POINT is in fact that all college aged kids should be equally represented (some day). If this were a study to determine whether a particular college were racially discriminating, then yes, of course, you'd look at the roughly qualified pool. Which would not be "all college aged kids," but those with the relevant preparation. But this article is about the US as a whole. (But anyway, if what you're interested in is comparing white drop-outs to blacks, there's research on that too. It shows that white HS dropouts do better than black college grads. We still have a LONG way to go. http://www.demos.org/blog/9/23/14/white-high-school-dropouts-have-more-wealth-black-and-hispanic-college-graduates)[/quote]
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