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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]OP here.  I'm getting some good feedback, thanks.

The answer is no on the toys.  She is too vanilla for that.

Agreed that saying "some women like this" might be weird.  I don't want her thinking "well what women do you know that like this and how do you know they like it"

I think she doesn't like exposing her rear end honestly.  A self conscious thing.  We can all be self conscious about certain body parts.  And her butt is actually very nice.

I'm glad to get some female feedback on how to bring her out of her shell a little, or mix up the routine.  But not trying to do anything crazy.  That is why I didn't go to the explicit board, because the answers would be crazy stuff that I know she isn't interested in, and I'm fine that she is not.  I'm fine staying vanilla, just need a little variance on the routine and trying to figure out how to make her see that.[/quote]

Toys can be introduced simply. Did you ever give DW a massage? Get a massager to help use it on her back. Next time use it on her back and calves and thighs. 3rd time, see if when using it on the inside of her thighs, you can slide it up or just use it on her butt cheeks and then ask her to roll over. Go slow. Don't dive right in. Tease the are when you get their. Her body language will let you know. Sometimes it's just about embarrassment or concern over what they thought was right/wrong and not at all about desire. [/quote]

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