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Because a lot of the posters here are not from DC or are probably parents at all. They're probably dumb f*ck flyover state folks who have never traveled, don't speak other languages, but somehow stumbled on to this forum. They are definitely not smart.[/quote]

Could you please stop with the idea that everybody who lives on the Atlantic and Pacific coasts is smart and cosmopolitan, and everybody who lives in between is a dumb hick? I know for a fact that neither is true, and you should know this, too.[/quote]

PP is correct, sorry. If you live somewhere other than the northeast or west coast, you ARE a dumbf*ck hillbilly assclown. This is universally true. Sorry if that means I'm condemning your uncle Conrad in Tennessee or your sister in Minneapolis. If they're progressive, they should've flowed charted that they needed to GTFO of flyover country a decade ago. Now there's no excuse. Everything and everyone between the northeast and the west coast needs to get nuked into not existing, and I hope North Korea can finally accomplish that for us.  It's the only way to get rid of these ignorant a-holes [/quote]

I think it's totally possible that some kind of organized PR squad (Russian, Republican, pure abstract trolls, enemies of Steele, etc.) is trying to disrupt conversation by posting otherwise reasonable conservative posts in ways designed mainly to get liberal people angry and make it seem as if holding a civil conversation is impossible.

I think it's also possible that the same folks come up with absurd posts that look as if they come from liberal people, to disrupt conversation that way.

If this is a post from some kind of organized troll: Good job.

If this is a sincere post: There are really good and bad people everywhere,  good and bad ideas everywhere, and a mix of red and blue voters everywhere. Even in places where, say, Trump wins by a landslide, that usually means that at least 15 percent of the voters are Democrats.

Even the bluest precinct has  plenty of Republicans in it.

You could even say that Trump even won because he performed the liberal task of pointing out that a lot of moderate-income working people feel really screwed right now. Trump ran on a GOP version of John Edwards' playbook.

The idea that liberals should give up on most of the United States, or that conservatives should give up on the coasts, seems pretty extreme.

If, heaven forbid, we have a red-blue civil war, that will be horrible, but it won't be easy to hide from that just by moving, because the conflict is woven into the fabric of life. We have different views because different ways of thinking work better in some situations than in others. Sometimes having kids with what we think are weird ideas keeps our line going. Trying to avoid and fight diversity of opinion is like trying to fight the fact that we have an instinct to eat food.

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This is the story that's told too often:

[img]http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2016/statemap512.png[/img]

When you color the map not by win or loss but instead by percentages you get this:

[img]http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2016/countymappurple512.png[/img]

And when you adjust the districts by population density you get this:

[img]http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/2016/countycartpurple512.png[/img][/quote]

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