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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I know several mediocre athletes going on to play at no-name D3s to know it is a scam just to get kids and families in the door. Julie gets to keep playing soccer, Julie's gullible parents get to brag she's a student-athlete. But Julie is left with a degree from a college nobody has ever heard of, which has no career fair and dismal OCI. 50% chance Julie quits soccer after a year or two. There are zero athletic scholarships at D3. It is illegal. Stop spreading false information. Many D3 teams don't cut players. It's a joke.[/quote] There are zero athletic scholarships at D3. I don't believe anyone on this thread has argued that there are, so no one is spreading false information. However, there is plenty of financial aid and academic-based merit aid at D3 colleges, and athletes are not prohibited from receiving it. Most D3 athletes are not "full pay" students, they are receiving some financial assistance. It just isn't an 'athletic" scholarship. Your Julie example makes little sense. If Julie is good enough to play at the no-name D3 school, she is good enough to play at many "better academic name" D3 schools. The most likely reason she is at the no-name D3 is that she doesn't have the grades/test scores to be admitted to "better name" schools. She's almost certainly not making a choice between No Name College and Williams College. And if she isn't good enough to play D1 and doesn't have the grades for Williams, she's also not making a choice between No Name College and UVA (with or without soccer). No matter what she chooses, your Julie isn't likely to be getting a degree from Widely Known and Respected University. Rather, she is probably choosing between soccer at No Name College or no soccer at Podunk U. So you've created a false dichotomy.[/quote] I really don't get all the bitterness in this thread. Who cares if a family decided to go full pay at a small school so their kid could play a sport they love and get an education? I know a lot of kids who were great athletes that elected to go D3 vs. d1 so they would have more balance in their college life. It seems to me like a win/win - families get a school they like and balance in their students life, college gets much the students they need. Not a scam, just a nice fit.[/quote] I don't get the bitterness, either. I, personally, think the focus on sports (at any division) in college is ridiculous but I don't make the rules. I happened to have one child who's very athletic and loves basketball, so we're going to see where it all takes him.[/quote]
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