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Why not? If you're a biological woman who identifies as a woman, you're a ciswoman or cisgender. Why is that hard?[/quote]

NP. It's not that it's hard, it's that it is incorrect.

Cisgender is defined as: of, relating to, or being a person whose gender identity corresponds with the sex the person had or was identified as having at birth.

I am a woman because I am an adult human female- not because I identify as such. In the same way, I am a human because I am a homo sapiens- not because I identify as such.

I do not have any internal sense of gender (read: gender identity). The "feelings" that go along with my gender are the literal ones related to my menstrual cycle, and that's something I cannot "identify" out of, even if I wanted to.[/quote]

I am the same way as you. I find that most trans identity is very highly stereotyped gender roles. It is as though identifying as a woman means that you have penis but like pink, frilly skirts, make-up, butterflies, hair extensions, and high heels.  As a woman who isn't particularly feminine and doesn't identify with really any of the things that transwomen talk about as how they knew they were a woman it doesn't make sense to me. Similar to 'thinking like a woman", as though we all think the same? I am again more stereotypically masculine in that sense. I am not emotional, more solution focused, etc. It is strange to me. I am still a woman even if I don't fit all the gender stereotypes of being female. Yet based on what transwomen say makes them a woman and not a man...I am actually not a woman by their standards. I don't have any particular feeling or identity about being a woman. [/quote]
Do you actually know any transmen or transwomen? Hair extensions and frilly pink clothes may be the picture we get from widely-publicized people like Caitlyn Jenner, but "real life" people who have transitioned aren't necessarily that stereotype-based.

As for your non-feelings about being female: that's so awesome for you. I have the same feelings as a cisgender woman. But I also have the empathy to recognize that not everyone feels the same as me. [/quote]

I'm not the PP to whom you're responding, but I do know trans people and I agree with the PP.

Years ago, I didn't know much on the topic, but wanted to learn more so I could better understand the issue. What I came away with wasn't what I expected to learn going in.

Overall, yes, a lot of the framework underlying it is sexist and in some particularly horrifying ways, homophobic. It is only reinforcing sex stereotypes. [/quote]

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