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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]One difference between Trump and Bill Clinton: Clinton did not say he wanted to build a wall and have Mexico pay for it![/quote] Maybe not in those words, exactly. But here's Bill Clinton, in his own words, talking about illegal aliens taking our jobs, taking our welfare benefits, stressing out public services, and how we, as Americans, need to stop illegal aliens from entering the U.S.: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7AXizmhgi0 On C-Span. He recieved a standing ovation for his comments on stopping illegal aliens entering the U.S. [/quote] Just because Bill said it, it did not and does not make it true. Anyhow, my prediction is as follows: The current GOP coalition is made of A) real conservatives who want minimal government involvement in anything (think Cruz) and perfectly happy with Wall Street taking advantage of everyone else, and B) others who have no problem with government intervention and taking strong government action to limit profits of the financial elites as long as they are the beneficiaries and not "the other" (Muslim, immigrants, AA, whatever). Trump won the primaries mostly based on cohort B, by promising to "take care of them" with"amazing cheap government-sponsored Trumpcare", and making life for "the other" terrible. Cohort A went along because he was still better than a Democratic president, obviously, and because they don't care that much about minority rights etc. You can see these two groups here on DCUM. Now, his cabinet appointments and actions so far point to the fact that he is trying to appease group A by limiting/destroying government and group B by making life for minorities awful. This is going to work for a while, but [b]eventually, group B will realize that making minorities miserable does not make them happy or any better economically.[/b] Group B will then return where it belongs, the Democratic party, no matter what the immigration talk is, because they will see that immigration is really not a problem. It's a fake problem created to distract them from the real abusers of the system, the 1%. Trump is a necessary evil to this end. Unless he manages to become a Dictator, which I hope not. [/quote] And I wanted to add one more thing: group B stuck with Reagan/Bill Clinton economics because the economy of the 80s and 90s (inlluding the bubble) allowed some level of prosperity to trickle down. We now live in a post-industrial society and in a gig-economy, and nothing can be done to "go back". In short order, people in group "B" will demand strong re-distributive policies, because that's the only thing left to do. After trying Trump-onomics for a little while that will become clear to enough folks. Even the Koch brothers are afraid of a progressive revolution now, as a backlash to failed Trump promises to group B. You can't campaign like FDR, and govern like a ultra-right-wing Reagan without people getting really upset. [/quote]
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