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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]PP, no, I don't think it's "silly."  Reducing religion to systems of control is reductive and narrow-minded.  It has many facets and many purposes, some transformative and positive to society.  PP, what ideology is motivating you?  Who is controlling you?  You don't seem enlightened to me.  You seem righteous and blind.[/quote]

I am self-motivated.  I believe in doing good for humanity just for the sake of helping others.  I've shared over 20 years of my life teaching teens in challenging schools.  I'm not selfishly motivated by an afterlife, and I certainly don't need an ancient text to guide me.

I'm sorry if you think that belief in a heaven "enlightens" people. To me, it's just another form of control.

And to the Einstein poster?  I'm happy for Einstein. But religions are a belief system NOT rooted in any scientific fact.  Until science finds a way - perhaps through physics - to join religion and scientific theory, then I may become "enlightened."    But Jesus is a story.  Compare his stories - which are very few - to the many Greek and Roman extant plays also designed to control the illiterate masses through entertainment.  If the works of Aeschylus, Euripides, Sophocles, and Aristophanes can exist, why can't a primary account of Jesus exist?  Certainly not all people back then witnessing his acts were illiterate.

But alas!  I am not enlightened.  So what do I know?[/quote]

I'm the PP you're responding to.  Lady, you just proved my point that you're narrow-minded.  Who said anything about needing to believe in heaven?  I don't.  You have an incredibly narrow view of what religion is and can be.  And you're basically just ranting.  The question was whether the historical Jesus existed.  There is evidence that he did.  Can you argue with it?  Sure, you can.  But it's not ridiculous to believe he existed, apart from the question of whether he was divine.  I'll stick with Einstein on that. [/quote]

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