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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Blake is a Vulnerable Narcissist. Look it up. [/quote]

Maybe, but the definition also describes Baldoni to a tee: A vulnerable narcissist (or covert narcissist) is characterized by
high insecurity, hypersensitivity to criticism, and chronic self-victimization, hiding their grandiosity behind a fragile, anxious, and often passive-aggressive demeanor. They share typical narcissistic traits like lack of empathy and entitlement but express them through resentment, emotional manipulation, and intense, draining relationship dynamic[/quote]

That was my first thought. From the start I've had Justin pegged as a vulnerable narcissist, because he really does retreat into playing the victim any time he's called out on bad behavior.

I had a boss like this at one point, a woman, and there are a lot of parallels in their behavior. Including always having like a vague physical ailment to blame bad behavior on, suddenly claiming neurodivergence when faced with accountability for bad behavior, and surrounding himself with enablers who "take care" of him.

I don't really know if he SHed Lively, and i do think Lively and Reynolds have their own issues that contributed to this conflict. But the main reason I have never been "pro-Justin" is due to extensive experience working for someone with a similar personality. It is really difficult. Also I'm not surprised he's so polarizing, with some people adoring him and others hating him. That's exactly what my experience is. Basically some people buy into the vulnerable act and are motivated to protect this person from perceived attacks (even when they are in a perfectly powerful position and shouldn't need protecting), other people see through it.

With Justin, I'm sorry, but I see through it. He's a trust fund baby who did a very bad job running this movie and should never been doling out advice to men on anything, but especially not masculinity. He's a fraud and now people know. I can't believe people still fall for it![/quote]

Right, he’s the difficult personality here— not the actress who demands she rent her own wardrobe to movie, has the location of the movie filmed changed to suit her,  calls meetings with her bosses at her home where she, her husband, and their famous friends berate them, refuses to sign her contract and constantly threatens to pull out of movie even after filming and has multiple female members of the crew fired.  Got it.[/quote]

PP here. I never said Blake wasn't difficult. She clearly is, and Ryan is worse. But the subject was who is a vulnerable narcissist. I don't read that in Blake and Ryan at all. They have several overt narcissistic behaviors, actually.

Baldoni is a covert, or vulnerable, narcissist. It's a specific kind of narcissism where a person with all the same narcissistic traits (grandiosity, lack of empathy, need to be center if attention) but instead of an overly aggressive it demanding personality, they use false vulnerability. All narcissists are hard to deal with but vulnerable narcissism can be especially challenging because it's inherently manipulative. You are tricked into giving them attention and deferring to them because they get you to feel sorry for them, or convince you their problems are bigger or more important.

All of these people are badly behaved rich people, and most have narcissistic tendencies of some kind, but Baldoni is the only one I'd categorize as a vulnerable narcissist. He fits the profile exactly.[/quote]

I see no evidence that he is any type of narcissist, but Blake looks to be.[/quote]

DP but... how??? I'm not here to stan for Blake either, I'm sure she is a difficult person and a diva, and I think she lacks talent. But how can he not be a narcissist when he decides to write books and give talks to other men to tell them how to interact with women (which it seems he does not follow at all), when he talks about his vision of the "female gaze" which is making actual women uncomfortable (and does not match the author's own vision as far as sex), and everything else he's done? The vulnerable narcissist describes him perfectly, like when he says he shut down, and was that little boy who couldn't speak up for himself... it's textbook![/quote]

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