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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Many Iranian Americans like the one above in this thread are actually delusional trump supporters. If YOU hate your government , YOU can go fight to change that, not expect another country to do it for you. [/quote]

I mean, nice try, but I am the Iranian who posted earlier, and I am very much NOT a Trump supporter and in general despise him to his core. It was right there in my post, which you apparently did not read.

Also, Iranians ARE fighting to change their own government - at least 40,000 of them have died in service of that cause, but they can't do it alone. I know you think their lives are worth less than dirt, but try to be more discreet about it at least. And this is neither here nor there, but do you think Iranians don't serve in the US military? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kavon_Hakimzadeh. There are between 500,000 - 1 million Iranians living in America and they have contributed immeasurably to its culture, economy, military, academic institutions, etc etc. [/quote]

DP. Can you explain what you would like the US government to do for Iranians? You’re obviously very frustrated, but it’s not clear what you want Americans to do to help your people.[/quote]

Still waiting for an answer, Iranian American pp.[/quote]

Nothing more than what they've already done. Weaken this regime, force them to make concessions, give reform/change (whatever form that ends up taking) at least a fighting chance. If we end up with a continuation of the regime but in a weakened, more western-friendly form - so be it. That is a positive development in my eyes, and I don't see why it's a negative one in the eyes of so many on this thread that claim to care about America's interests. [/quote]

Why would it take a more Western form? That's not a logical outcome in any sense.[/quote]

Why wouldn't it? America has just proven that the Iranian regime is a paper tiger, militarily. They have been utterly humiliated on the world stage. Their anti-Western posturing isn't going to play with the Iranian population anymore (to the extent it ever did). [/quote]

When 9/11 humiliated America did we suddenly look more favorably on the Arab world?  Like this idea seems like total nonsense. [/quote]

[b]Did most Americans despise their own government[/b] and prefer the Arab world prior to 9/11? No? Then this is not a useful comparison. [/quote]
Yes, yes indeed. Half of America despised the Bush-Cheney government. Hanging chads was still a sore spot. However after 9/11 it wasn't about Bush-Cheney. We rallied against the enemy and for our country.[/quote]

Speak for yourself! I was on the Mall protesting Bush's intended Iraq invasion with the 6-10M people protesting across the country.

War is almost never the answer. We have learned nothing.

It's more of blind partisanship now, especially when MAGA can't agree if they want war or not, if this is a war, or isn't. SMDH.[/quote]
Sorry, I should have clarified. Most Americans, maybe not you, banded when we decided to go into Afghanistan in retaliation. I agree that many of us, myself included, were against the Iraqi invasion and that is because the intelligent people knew that Iraq had nothing to do with 911. [/quote]

Speak for yourself. Hunting bin Laden is not the same as trying to conquer Afghanistan [/quote]

"We will make no distinction between the terrorists who committed these acts and those who harbor them" is a famous quote from U.S. President George W. Bush in his address to the nation on September 11, 2001.

I do think many Americans were able to get behind that idea.

Invading Iraq had nothing to do with 9 11 and that fiasco fundamentally broke what little trust there was for gathering up  support for wars to be  fought by American troops.[/quote]
It’s also the failure of the 9/11 commission itself. Does anybody believe Khalid sheikh Mohamed was the mastermind and osama is now in the sea? I don’t believe anything the government says. My generation hates the boomers, is tired of Middle East wars, and does not trust the establishment media [/quote]

Go to any protest right now against this administration and it is full of boomer women.   They were also clearly out in Minneapolis protesting ice atrocities.   [/quote]

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