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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This is such a depressing thread. That a group of men (and one loony woman) have the right to take all American women's right to choose whether or not to have an abortion to end an unwanted pregnancy is horrifying. But here we are in 2022, and men are still calling the shots, controlling women. [/quote]

Because women time and time again vote against their OWN interest. The interest of women. 
Yeah, you have some who LOVE this ruling, but the majority don't. But I bet my bottom dollar that come november they will vote an R just like always and say it is becasue of taxes (though Rs want to raise middle class tax) or small business (yet Rs haven't done crap for small business) or education (Rs want to get rid of books that make moms have difficult convos with their kids) or some other BS story the Rs will push on them and they will vote to protect themselves from the 'big bad boogie man' that doesn't exist all the while letting the wolf into their homes and bedrooms without batting an eye.

This reminds me of a cartoon i love. It is an axe asking the forest to vote for him to be ruler because he is just like them, made of WOOD! He would never do anything to hurt them. He is just like them!! [/quote]

Why should we still have to vote to fight for our human rights? The politicization of abortion is the problem. It should be standard healthcare. I’m a white woman and I have voted Democrat in every election of my life. What has it gotten me? What else can I do?[/quote]

PP, I hear your frustration. I would flip your framing, you aren’t fighting for your rights, SCOTUS/GOP are TAKING AWAY our rights. Voting for Dems has stopped even more horrible bills passing. Think back on the Trump years. Do we really want to go back to that? And todays GOP are even more unhinged.

I know this is an unsatisfactory response. Believe me, I’m disappointed in Dem Congressional leadership. But then I see leaders like Malloy McMarrow and Katie Porter and I have hope.  [/quote]
The history of this country has been about everyone but property-owning white men needing to fight for their rights...though the rights of non-property owning white men were often granted as a way to further oppress Black men (as opposed to hard-won fights). Most of those fights have been extremely bloody. Read about the suffragettes.

Why should we have to fight for these things? Because that's how power works.[/quote]

Well the whole point of the American democracy experiment is that literal fighting isn’t required.[/quote]
The Civil War says hello. [/quote]

Obviously. But are we saying that the experiment is over or is at another such failure point? I don’t think so.[/quote]

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