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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]^ by environment, I primarily mean an extensive network of support for low-income families 
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What extensive network does NYC have?

The problem with FCPS providing support for per kids is that they are trying to achieve equal results not equal ability.  And besides, they don't really care about income, just skin color.

They could have artificially achieved income diversity by explicitly preferencing income (which they did), they didn't have to get rid of the test for that.  But they could not explicitly preference race and so they got rid of the test because objective testing is an obstacle to racial diversity.  [/quote]

They got rid of the test because wealthy people were getting an additional unfair advantage by prepping.

They had already changed the test to prevent this multiple times. But test prep companies continued to “crack” the test. 
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That's silly.  We were there, we saw the board taking about racial diversity throughout the entire process.  The backdrop of BLM let them push it through but it was all about race.   You know it.  I know it.  Everyone knows it.  If wealth determined how well you did on these tests why would Stuyvesant be 50% farm?  How did TJ go from majority white to majority Asian?  [/quote]

Is this a serious question? Because the answer is wealthy Indian families concentrated in Loudoun and western Fairfax. They’re by FAR the wealthiest demographic in Northern Virginia.[/quote]

GTFOH.

Of the 500 wealthiest family's in northern Virginia, they are overwhelmingly white.  There may be a concentration of affluent Indian families in Loudon but they are not the wealthiest people in Fairfax.  Not even close.

And even if they were, of the 500 spots at TJ under the old system, Loudon county got ~70 spots.  The soft in demographics at TJ is because Asians showed up.  That is what is causing the distribution that people want to counter.

There wasn't any political will to do anything when TJ was overwhelmingly white, that just seemed natural.  Things didn't seem off until Asians started to crowd out white kids.  [/quote]

You’re not arguing in good faith, so I shouldn’t dignify with a response, but I have concerns that the uninformed might take you seriously, so…

1) Your assertion about the 500 wealthiest families is simultaneously probably correct and completely irrelevant. The point is not that exam culture favors the wealthiest - it’s that it favors those with *enough* wealth to take advantage of its weaknesses.

And the population in Northern Virginia with the highest proportion of upper-middle class families is *absolutely* the South Asians, and they’re quite vocal and proud about it. And rightfully so! They came to this area to make their lives in the Dulles Tech Corridor and they deserve to be lauded for those accomplishments - but the expectation that the TJ admissions process should cater to their educational priorities is asinine.

2) Loudoun didn’t get about 70 spots. They got between 100-120 based on their proportion of 8th grade students in the catchment area. And those seats were approximately 90% Asian, the overwhelming majority of those were South Asian, and those numbers strongly paralleled the infamous “Curie List” students who indicated admission to both TJ and AOS/AET.

3) It’s completely false that no one tried to do anything about TJ admissions until it became majority-Asian. Do your homework (and don’t use ChatGPT like your kids do) and look up the moves that were attempted in the early and late 2000s, mostly led by the NAACP. TJ was about 65% white back in those days and there were plenty of conversations about opening access to TJ to families of lesser economic means.[/quote]

I'm responding to a post that claims that loudon county indians are [b]"by FAR the wealthiest demographic in Northern Virginia"[/b] and the reason this incorrect claim is made is because it the racists want to frame this issue as an income issue when it's about race.[/quote]

They are, and it’s by about $20,000 per capita. This isn’t a topic that’s up for debate among serious people.[/quote]

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