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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]How can you use my body against my will? I just don't get how this is not a right to life. There are many amendments which state that power can NOT be taken away from the people unless the state has a compelling reason to do so. A bunch of old white men have never been compelling. [/quote] The unborn child is a pretty compelling reason. [/quote] What unborn 'child'? The sac of cells in my fallopian tube that will cause it to rupture is NOT a child honey. [/quote] This is a leftist death porn fantasy. Not even a Catholic hospital would refuse surgery in this case :roll: [u]And no, the Irish case is not a good example because it was much more complicated in that their NHS can’t treat septicemia well[/u][/quote] Id like some more information on the underlined- you need to be able to back that statement up and people are just glossing over it. The "Irish case" as you refer to it has multiple notes where the deceased and her husband asked for termination and were told they cant until there is no fetal heartbeat unless the life of the mother is at risk. [url]https://www.thejournal.ie/eighth-amendment-4-3977441-Apr2018/[/url] Apparently you needed to be bleeding out but then it remains how many liters of blood do you need to lose before your life is at risk? is that something the states elected representatives get to determine? and you do know that blood liters are not consistent among individuals?[/quote] DP, and I also think this is beside the point. Maybe it's true that NHS is poor at treating septicemia. That's not a reason to let a woman die rather than terminate her pregnancy before septicemia sets in. In fact, that's why it's much better to give healthcare providers the discretion regarding what constitutes grave danger and viability. It varies based on the patients' underlying health and the availability of care in the actual circumstances a person is being treated. My parents and my late FIL are all physicians. They absolutely take into account where they get treated for something based on the capability of the given medical center. In an emergent situation, the medical professional needs to be able to decide the most sensible course of action within the specific circumstances. If NHS has poor outcomes for septicemia, avoiding septicemia should be a consideration in deciding a course of treatment.[/quote]
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