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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Virginians are Virginians in addition to being Americans. They can be proud if both their national and state history. Their state history includes NOT being part of the Union during the civil war. [/quote]in what way are you proud of the fact that Virginia seceded?[/quote]
[b]In the face of daunting odds[/b] they stood up for what they believed was right.  Now no one today would agree with their cause, but that was a different era when the proper answer wasn't so clear.  Especially considering the right thing to do meant the ruin of many of those in power.  Economically wise, you could compare it to losing half your property and doubling the minimum wage.  Many a person has decided on their pocket book over doing the right thing.[/quote]

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You just described any revolutionary on the planet.  No one starts a civil war believing they are wrong.  [/quote]

Joseph Stalin thought he was doing the right thing. [/quote]
In many respects Stalin was doing the right thing.  The brutal means in which he chose to achieve those things was his historical scar.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/timelines/z8nbcdm[/quote]

You would actually defend Joseph Stalin in order to back up your position on the Confederacy?  [/quote]
I don't have the position on the Confederacy you may think.  I'm a far northerner who has no family connection to the south.  But I also don't see any reason to discredit the entirety of a persons life simply because you and I don't agree with his policy.  Also considering the era in which he lived, the wrongness of that policy was not as clear as it is today.  It was a legitimately debatable topic at the time.  If it wasn't, you wouldn't have had half the country divided.[/quote]

It's not a matter of discrediting him,[b] so much as refusing to honor someone who waged war against our country[/b].  How on earth is that debatable?  [/quote]

We regularly honor the British and they waged two wars against our country. The war was a long time ago. Perhaps you are unaware, but after reconstruction the north made a consious decision to honor both the north and south' participation in the civil war. This was done to promote healing and national unity. It's why so many confederate memorials were built in the early 20tn century. It's why many US Army bases are named after confederates. As we get further away from the event of the civil war itself, we should be getting LESS sensitized to it, not more. You don't see  the British going around looking to tear down statues of Oliver Cromwell,[/quote]

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