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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]PP who posted the letter from the Islamic scholars.  I am not Muslim. But what [b]the letter says is very much how Islam has been practiced for hundreds of years. [/b] (Except the slavery part, which existed in the last century.)  Even in ancient Islam people were given the choice between converting or paying a tax, which in turn got you out of military service.  This is why there were [b]sizable Christian and Jewish communities in the Middle East throughout that time[/b].

Just because ISIS says it is returning to how Islam was practiced at its origin does not make it so.

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Technically you could say that is true since the letter is vague and leaves much up to interpretation.  It doesn't specifically say not to kill people not of the Book. You're correct in that the Christian and Jewish communities did not disappear.. as the Zorastrian communities did.   Then there are things that have have happened in more recent history, so we cannot say it's been 100s of years since.

For example, the Bangladesh Genocide was just a few decades ago. It was called political by a previous poster, the people that were being killed and raped were specifically of one religion and the reason was for proper Islamization of the area.  Political/Religious- flip a coin.

''London, 6/13/71). The Sunday Times…..”The Government’s policy for East Bengal was spelled out to me in the Eastern Command headquarters at Dacca. It has three elements:

1. The Bengalis have proved themselves unreliable and must be ruled by West Pakistanis;

2. The Bengalis will have to be re-educated along proper Islamic lines. The – Islamization of the masses – this is the official jargon – is intended to eliminate secessionist tendencies and provide a strong religious bond with West Pakistan;

3. When the Hindus have been eliminated by death and fight, their property will be used as a golden carrot to win over the under privileged Muslim middle-class. This will provide the base for erecting administrative and political structures in the future.”

When a religion has specific laws and it's own courts and the nation state is based on religion- there is no separation between politics and faith.

I'm not going by what ISIS says it's practicing, I'm comparing to it to historical evidence and historical practice.

I absolutely know in my heart that the majority Muslims do not want people not "of the Book" to be killed and find that barbaric. Convert or pay tax or die is not a valid option, often these people are reduced to conversion or death because they are then banned from having jobs so how can they pay?   These things can and need to be reformed.

But right now we cannot say that Islam forbids these things and we have historical evidence of this interpretation, thus ISIS or any other organization or even any mosque or Islamic school can interpret what determines compulsion, who deserves to die as infidels, who decides on a caliphate, etc.

We can say that it hasn't been practiced in X number of years or that is not true Islam or they are not practicing correctly or that it's all just political, but we are not being 100% even if we really want to believe these things. 
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