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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]While I agree that the government should stay out of reproductive issues, I still feel that we are in our rights to not provide government assistance (tax dollars) to those that continue to have kids when they can't afford their own basic needs (food, shelter, etc.). If youalready have kids and are down on your luck, absolutely you should get some help, but the second you pop out another mouth for us to feed, then your support ends.

Yeah, yeah "why punish the innocent child". I totally get that, but if the parents are that stupid to make the right decisions, then lets throw them on birth control and we'll make the decisions for them.

Laws do exist to prevent the dumb from killing themselves, such as seatbelts, so why not restrictions to prevent a burden, however slight, on our tax dollars. Not to mention that the odds are high that the vicious cycle will continue.

I bring this up when I found out that a co-worker of mine's daughter, who is 17, is having another baby by another boyfriend. The coworker is 34. Imagine being a grandma at 33. The daughter is on welfare and at the same time was getting tattoso, piercings, nails, hair dyes and cell phones since she kept losing them. She lives in subsidized housing and has a roomate that she collects from, the roomate paying more than what the daughter is paying for rent. 
The co-worker thinks it is great how smart her daughter is. Stupid breeds stupid.[/quote]

Both the females and males need to be sterilized so they don't keep making babies that others have to pay for.

-Mother of two (I happen to be pro choice, but can't stand it when people are milking the system. If you knew your kid would die of starvation because no one would help, maybe you wouldn't have a kid you couldn't afford. But when the government will pay you for staying at home to take care of these kids, it becomes a job to them.)

My maternity leave was unpaid and no one is giving me money to raise my kids. We work to pay our bills. [b]Why do others get a free ride?[/b][/quote]

Because they are infants and small children who deserve to be fed and housed even if their parents act without thinking or simply make choices we disagree with.Because a hungry or homeless 3rd grader can't take full advantage of a free pubic education and is likely to be a less productive citizen as a result.[/quote]

Why do the parents constantly get to act without thinking and make the stupidest choices over and over again?  Why are there never any consequences or interventions?  When in the hell is this cycle going to end?[/quote]

You make poverty sound like a walk in the park.  [/quote]

No, you have that backwards.  Life is a series of choices.  Make shitty choices and your life will be shitty.  Make good choices and your life will be better.  Some people don't even understand that fundamental reality.  Some people don't see the point of becoming educated enough to make good choices.  Some people actually go out of their way to and prefer to make shitty choices, foolishly thinking there's a shortcut to or exit strategy to a better life  (like gambling or crime or getting pregnant).  There are no shortcuts, no walks in the park, you have to do the work and make the right choices.[/quote]

Some choices go to shit even though they seemed reasonable at the time.
Do you want a society that looks like it came out of a Dickens novel?  Because that's the reality of a society without a public safety net.  [/quote]

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