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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]IMPACT has been pretty successful actually. But WTU hates it, so, of course, Janeese wants to get rid of it. Their wish is her command.

"And all of the rigorous research we have suggests that it worked basically as intended. The canonical studies on this issue — by teams from the University of Virginia, Stanford, and Brown — found that when teachers rated “ineffective” left schools, they tended to be replaced by better-performing educators, and students’ results improved. Even though some effective teachers exited too, turnover had an overall positive impact on achievement — suggesting the good of the policy outweighed the bad of any “instability” it created, as one DCPS report noted.

The same was true later years, after IMPACT underwent revisions that lessened its emphasis on test scores. What’s more, a separate paper found compelling evidence that the system was spurring educators who stayed in D.C. to improve their teaching skills. (Mathematica’s research also found that Fenty’s broader set of reforms, including IMPACT, bore fruit).

Nonetheless, nixing IMPACT has remained one of the teachers’ union’s major goals. Now it’s backing Lewis George, who has promised to deliver on it."

https://capitalcommonsense.substack.com/p/im-a-dcps-parent-janeese-lewis-georges?r=9c2s&utm_medium=ios&triedRedirect=true[/quote]

I think this thread has actually been helpful for me. Maybe I'll go vote today and then can stop thinking about it.[/quote]

Ah, so I guess racism is great to you. Gotcha. I guess making teachers miserable is ok to you.

Just say you hate teachers.

https://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/page_content/attachments/American-University-School-of-Education-Report-for-DCPS_FINAL.pdf
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Uh, well, DCPS itself says teacher retention has improved under IMPACT and the teachers who complain the most about IMPACT are the ones with the very worst ratings.

https://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/page_content/attachments/Teacher-Retention-Memo_IMPACT-Review_August-2021.pdf[/]

I am an 8th year teacher who has received highly effective 7/8 years, including this one. It’s toxic but yea I’ll take the free money.

That claim doesn’t hold up, and here’s the receipts:

DCPS actually commissioned American University’s School of Education to do an independent review of IMPACT - and the results were not flattering (since you’re too lazy to read it). The AU findings showed overwhelmingly negative feelings about IMPACT among teachers, who described it as creating an atmosphere of fear, distrust, and competition, especially in low-performing schools.  That’s not a few complainers. That’s a documented pattern across interviews and surveys that DCPS paid for.

And then there’s the racial bias piece - Black teachers received two and a half times as many score deductions as white teachers, and more than twice as many as Hispanic/Latino teachers, regardless of the race of the evaluator.  So the system is producing biased outcomes even when you control for evaluator bias. That’s a structural problem, not a performance problem.

Oh, and DCPS tried to sit on these findings. The WTU had to formally petition DCPS just to get them to release the AU data, even though DCPS had already received the early results.  If IMPACT were as great as they claim, why hide the independent research you commissioned yourself?

DCPS absolutely cherry-picks which data they publicize. That’s the issue.[/quote]

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