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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]This why we need government funding out of all schools. These universities have sticker prices above $50k a year and most have massive endowments. Let’s then stand, and make decisions, on their own.[/quote]

The government isn't "funding" the schools. The schools compete for research grants. If you are suggesting the government has no role in asking top academic institutions to conduct research, that is an entirely different discussion.[/quote]

Anything that gives governments a say over what colleges do isn’t good. Doesn’t matter if it funding or grants they can hold over their heads. Colleges need to be independent. Everybody understood the system of full pay kids subsidizing grants for non full pay kids. When a legacy with a 3.9 and 1400 got into Harvard we all accepted it, because we knew it helped the kid from a less privileged background with a 4.8 and 1590.[/quote]

I think the opposite is true.

Eliminate tax exempt status and federal funding of private colleges.[/quote]

well then it wont matter to most of you complaining.  Because that $90K yearly costs will skyrocket rapidly and you wont be able to afford to attend even if by some miracle your kid still gets admission

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+100

Can you imagine the howls. Can you imagine what the politics would look like if research money was only going to Public Schools. Rather than the best proposal winning it would be the senior member of the Appropriations home state schools collecting the cash. These fools have no idea how endowments actually work; they believe that it is open access to the money pile.

All of this works for me because I can cash flow two kids at current prices without issue but most of us can't do that.[/quote]

Yup!  They also don't get that much of the research grants going to universities are saving the USA $$$$$.  You can either pay people in private industry with PHDs in STEM areas to do the medical/scientific research for advances (so likely $150K+ depending upon the area and their expertise) or you can pay MS/PHD students who get $25-30K/year, have to teach as well as give 150% of their lives to the research (because they want to do well, want to succeed and get published with something that makes it big in science).  
Hmm...I'll take the "cheap & highly motivated PHD student".

Also, if you cannot cash flow the $90K, well the top schools are not giving merit.  So it will still cost $90K even after EA/RD (and hint, they still wont be able to afford it).  But there are literally tons of awesome schools that give merit/won't cost $90K, just step outside the T25-30 schools and your top student will get it.   [b]Anyone with a resume for a T25 school can easily get multiple great merit offers from the 30-100 range schools [/quote][/b]

True, but what does Pitt look like when their research budgets get slaughtered. My guess is that the 25-50 start to look more like the 100-200 and the 100 - 200 just drop most research. More research money will go to private companies which suits some of the idiots currently in place just fine.

The elite schools go back to being places suitable for the 'elite' with tightened access.[/quote]

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