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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Ruled a suicide again. I don't see how that is remotely possible.

https://people.com/ellen-greenberg-death-ruled-suicide-again-11828915[/quote]
This case is bizarre. I don’t trust the medical examiner’s office. I’m so sad for her family. They’ve fought so hard for so long, and all they’re asking for is for her death to be investigated, which it absolutely should be. The system has failed Ellen repeatedly — at someone’s direction.[/quote]
How has it failed her? How many times do you think taxpayer money should go towards it being investigated only to come to the same resolution? And before you say “there should be an independent investigation”, you don’t think that will be biased? Sometimes, weird things actually happen. [/quote]
The Medical Examiner’s Office has reviewed their findings. That’s the only “investigation” so far. Her death has not been investigated as a homicide because it’s been ruled a suicide. Multiple privately hired expert medical examiners disagree with the local ME’s findings. Common sense tells us that suicide sounds far fetched, and we know her fiancé engaged in highly suspicious behavior the day of and first couple days after her death. Her family wants homicide detectives to investigate the her death, which they have not done. [/quote]

You can hire experts to say anything. And I disagree that her fiancé acted suspiciously. [/quote]

He lied about being accompanied when he found her body, for one. And what possessed him to break down the door?[/quote]

I read the Me report which contains pieces of original police reports and the fiancés statement that night. He didn’t lie. Someone - they don’t know who- stated that the security guard was with him when he broke down the door, but there’s no evidence it was the fiancé ‘lying’. Likely just confusion. He did break down the door, after the cameras and witnesses tracked him coming from the gym, knocking on the door, calling her, engaging the security guard to help him etc (the sec guard didn’t bc as he said ‘he couldn’t leave his post’). He immediately talked to the police, was seen crying hysterically in the hallway, he went to the station voluntarily etc  
There’s nothing suspicious about his behavior, other than people wanting to pick apart his 911 call as if there is some universal standard for how people are supposed to react in the face of a tragedy. There was no history of DA and in fact her parents immediately supported this when asked by the police that evening. The door was locked from the inside, there was no evidence of any other access, no disturbance, no defensive marks on her, no marks on him, none of his DNA on the knife.

I feel bad for everyone here. The parents clearly can’t accept their daughter was mentally ill and killed herself ; apparently there was a history of her having mental health issues, and her parents were not particularly supportive of her taking medication. They probably feel subconsciously guilty. But it’s time for them to let it go. [/quote]

I agree with you. I think people are trying to apply rational logic to an irrational mind. If you’ve never known anyone with serious mental illness or been mentally ill, it can all be very hard to imagine. I feel for her parents. I feel for her as I don’t think she would have ever intended to haunt them this way. The whole thing is just horrible. [/quote]

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