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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]I heard Trinity in NYC this year has 9 kids going to Brown? that's wild![/quote]

NYC kids are typically very impressive and often with hooks too. I think there are 6-8 girls at The Spence School going to Harvard this year out of a class of 60! Half of Brearley’s class is going to Ivies + Stanford & MIT. Saint Ann’s, Dalton, Hunter, Stuyvesant all have excellent outcomes too. Nothing new there. These are their results (almost) every year. [/quote]

Almost everyone of these have $50k-100k per year counselors right from 8th grade. [/quote]

No, they do not. The schools themselves provide the college counseling. I personally know a kid well at one of the privates going to HYPSM with zero outside help. What he does have is 1580 on the SAT that he got at one sitting the summer before his junior year, a 3.95 GPA and a niche major that is his true interest and intended course of study. 
The rigor at those schools is insane. Their students are extremely well prepared for college and do very well. [/quote]

Don’t let these schools totally fool you. These kids are not infinitely more impressive or working infinitely harder than dc kids. I know many. They have hooks well beyond just run of the mill legacy. Many have real f’u $ and many do hire private counselors.

They aren’t sending 8 a class to Yale bc they are working these kids harder and colleges are impressed by the rigor.

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Private school kids are not smarter, nor are they more impressive. It's not really about the hooks, though, for the majority of the class getting into T20. Their schools are feeders that don't focus on testing (some of these schools don't even have grades). Instead, they focus on the whole person, often hyper-focused on intellectual independence, creativity, and curiosity, which creates strong analytic thinkers with strong communication skills. That is the difference.

- signed non-DMV private school parent[/quote]

The HS rigor is much different though. I was a Ffx co public school kid. My kids did k-8 public in strong DMV school district. They then went to private HS in DC. They received 5s on all 10 AP exams with no outside studying or prep. They scored a 35 and 36 ACT- each first sitting. Not only did they excel in STEM, but they came out as excellent writers. They were taught to think, question and solve.

My attic is overflowing with the required books —literally shelves, upon shelves. The amount of novels in one year, the lit reading in Spanish - honors , etc.  Oldest is at an Ivy and was very very well prepared.

Privates/Ivies do look at HS rigor. 
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I think public schools are often as good as or more rigorous than privates — it’s just the counseling is not as good so kids are not aware of what they need to do for Ivy admissions.

My public school kid (1600/4.0/10 APs) received the highest possible Academic Index of 240 at Harvard. DC had taken APs in all 5 core areas. Most kids at our school take 4 APs as that is what makes the counselor mark “highest rigor” on the SSR. Our school hadn’t sent anyone to Harvard in at least a decade and probably only legacies before then. My kid just took courses that seemed like natural progressions — had no idea about only 4 being necessary for the highest rigor marking. And applied to Harvard for the heck of it! We were shocked at the admittance. After my kid was admitted, the high performers started taking 10 APs and have gone even further by doing Calc BC in 10/11 and then do Linear Algebra, etc through other places. While no one has got into Harvard again, we definitely have kids going to more selective colleges.

However I’ve heard that private colleges trust private high school counselors more — mostly for yield. These are the fancy private schools counselors.

And my kid is doing just fine at Harvard. Public school kids are big readers too! [/quote]

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