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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]For the MAGA Margie up thread who is crying and lying about Dems not talking about healthcare, here is Don the Con telling us all we need to know about his healthcare plan…just give it two more weeks. Definitely not a throwaway line. Right?!?!

[youtube]https://m.youtube.com/shorts/6Pt2q-Cp5W4[/youtube]

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Another “at least Dems arent as bad as Trump” post while ignoring the bit that Dems are still bad. People are looking for a party that offers more substance and less hypocrisy.[/quote]

Nope, the issue at question is Dems don’t talk about healthcare and they don’t care about blue collar workers and they want them to suffer. See upthread.

MAGA doesn’t talk about healthcare and they don’t ACTUALLY care about blue collar worker and they are implementing healthcare policies that will hurt many Americans but ONLY Democrats are doing it wrong.

I think a lot of people want to hate on Dems, including a lot of self-proclaimed Dems for reasons that make no sense. If you give me a reason that makes sense, then we’re getting somewhere. And, yes, the Dems have problems. But, not the problems I’m seeing in this thread. [/quote]

OMG. I forgot to respond to the Dems arent as bad good for education bit. That is a HUGE lie. They have practically decimated K-12 education. Spelling not important, 1+1 = 3 is close enough, removal of phonics, evacuate and disrupt to classrooms regularly to deal with a single tantrum throwing child, etc. There are so many other things I could list.

Just look at the FCPS school board. Members should be barred from political office for a number of years. It is supposed to be non-partisan yet many a members are openly affiliated with a party. One year, instead of stating education as a goal, they cited immigration as their number one issue. They can’t even stay in their lane. And don’t start on the Bush NCLB crap, because Obama ran with it and slapped a new name on it. [/quote]

The idea that Democrats are good for education is laughable to anyone who had kids during covid.

Nobody believes the party in favor of decimating advanced math is good for education. [/quote]
Democrats are better than Republicans on education. 
Republicans don't believe in science and want to defund education. 
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I simply do not believe any more that the Democrats are better than Republicans on education. I used to believe that wholeheartedly. Of course the Republicans are garbage on education, but now the Democrats are too. [/quote]

The Democrats right now are better than the Republicans right now, this extends to education.[/quote]

I don't believe Democrats are better either.  The Democrats run Universities, and they have clearly tried to avoid standardized tests that would allow for head-to-head comparisons between people from different backgrounds.  EG Republicans did just fine on standardized tests.  Democrats had to go out of their way to exclude them (and Asians too).[/quote]

So you think R’s are better? They don’t believe in science. Red states are at bottom with education. They are trying to undermine universities. They want to ban books. They don’t want the electorate educated. Stupid is better for them.

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I don’t think Rs are better. Of course they are not. But I used to think Ds were better and now I think both parties are equally bad on education.

It essentially removes education for me as a factor in considering candidates. Neither party cares or will help. [/quote]

there is a difference between gutting and what you see as not helping.

The Rs are gutting education. They don’t believe in science, attacking universities, banning books. [/quote]

How is that any different than destroying rigor, like the Democrats are doing?

As for attacking universities, for many universities that call is coming from inside the house.

And removing graphic novels from school libraries that depict sex scenes that are too X-rated to show anywhere else is not bothersome to me. I’m with the Republicans on that. Kids do not need their school libraries providing them pornography. [/quote]

No. You can’t equate this at all. R’s are purposely destroying education because they don’t want the electorate to be educated. Uneducated people are easier to manipulate.

As far as banning books, you think this is all about porn??? Wake up. Dog Man was banned in Florida schools. Also many classics have been banned like To Kill a Mockingbird and a kids book called Freckleface Strawberry. [/quote]

The banning of TKOM has come from the left, not the right. [/quote]

Confirming that this is a problem with left and right partisans:
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/columnists/iowa-view/2023/11/19/to-kill-a-mockingbird-book-bans-take-away-understanding/71598205007/
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Which is why it’s stupid to pretend Democrats are any good on education as an issue. They’re as backward as the Republicans, just in their own way. [/quote]

Agree.[/quote]

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