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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]That would be a hard no for be:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3085447/[/quote]
Same. When I was 19 I went through an awful depressive episode that I would’ve absolutely ended if I had access to a firearm. [b]Guns are FAR more likely to be used in suicide than in protection. [/b][/quote]

That has to be the most ridiculous thing said on this forum in ages.

Guns are used over 1.2 to 2 million times a year in the USA alone for self defense. Most don't have to fire a shot, simply the presence of it stops the altercation or attack.

There are around 20,000 suicides by firearm a year in the USA.

1.5 million > 20,000 by a huge margin. :D [/quote]
You’re living in lalaland.

https://hiprc.org/blog/firearm-deaths-in-the-home-due-to-suicide-and-criminal-homicide-are-more-common-than-self-defense-homicide/#:~:text=There%20were%20647%20firearm%20deaths,the%20National%20Institutes%20of%20Health.

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2763812

Over the study period, 647 firearm deaths occurred in homes (3.9 per 100 000 person-years) (Figure). The median age of the persons killed by firearms was 48 (interquartile range [IQR], 30-64) years, and 541 (83.6%) were male (Table). Nearly all persons who committed suicide (502 [96.2%]) died at their own residence; whereas 57 persons killed by homicide (65.5%) died at their own residence, and 23 (26.4%) died at the residence of a friend or acquaintance. Of cases with a known firearm source, 114 persons who committed suicide (93.4%) used a firearm kept in the home. In contrast, homicide offenders brought the firearm to the home in 74 (81.3%) cases. Of the 99 homicides, 12 (12.1%) were self-defense. [b]For each case of self-defense homicide, there were 0.9 unintentional deaths (95% CI, 0.4-2.1), 7.3 criminal homicides (95% CI, 4.0-13.3), and 44.1 suicides (95% CI, 24.9-78.1) in the home.
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Yes, this is deaths. But you are being dishonest by not counting the number of violent crimes committed with guns which far outstrips any perceived “self defense” which includes your crazy uncle chasing people off his lawn. [/quote]

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