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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]1500 has been the marker for many, many years. I believe it still is. I doubt many, if any, admissions officers care about a 1550 vs a 1540. Or a 1530 vs a 1570. All within the same standard deviation to account for those test takers having a good day vs those having a bad day. Anyone in the 1500+ bucket gets extra attention paid to their ECs and other achievements. [/quote] We have data on this and a 1590 has more than twice the admission rate at top 11 schools as a 1500. It might not be worth the extra effort to get the 1590 but AOs are not indifferent to SAT scores above 1500 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-55119-0[/quote] The journal Nature published an article about how college admissions is unfair to Asians ... in 2024? This was obvious in 1994[/quote] Oh BS. Asians prep like crazy. It’s the hook that favors their cultural approach. Their parents and grandparents were used to the cram schools and spending 6 hours a day after school cramming. Prepping and cheating for scores only matter admission is common in countries like Korea, India and China. Of course the author wants to get rid of athletic recruits, particularly for sports that aren’t dominated by Asians, legacy and donors as Asian alumni do not give or give far less than other demographics, first generation college and any other aspect that doesn’t favor them. Getting over 1500 on the SAT is not challenging to a reasonably intelligent kid that has been forced to practice for years until they consistently nail a perfect score on practice tests. It’s not a sign of brilliance, it a sign of obedience to parents that demand a perfect score.[/quote]you would have said the same about Jews a century ago when they were the ones getting the short stick[/quote] +1. And there’s nothing stopping a non-Asian kid from prepping. In fact many of them do, despite the PP’s ignorant stereotype. Let the prizes go to the kids who work the hardest. Sorry you don’t believe in meritocracy-not everything is going to be given to your kid in life if they’re not performing.[/quote] But the problem with your argument is not everyone wants to study hard but they still want to go to top colleges and universities. Besides there are already too many Asians at to schools and if they didn't have holistic admissions, they couldn't keep moving the goal posts to avoid Asians. Seriously if they were transparent about their admission criteria, asian kid world adapt so they have to keep it a moving target. [/quote] You think it is about keeping Asians out but it isn’t. It’s about building a class that fits their institutional priorities and many people on this thread just don’t want to accept that these schools have zero interest in optimizing for peak academics. They want excellent academics plus something else.[/quote]
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