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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]It’s about the difference between a competitive candidate and a compelling candidate.

I just heard Duke’s AO speak about this on a recent podcast. Super helpful.[/quote]

Agree.
People think high stats gets you in. Look at what ppl are posting. Stats are irrelevant after a certain point. It does not get you “in”. Just gets your app read.

Lower (but still baseline) stats can get you in, if you are otherwise “compelling” (defined as geo diversity; major (way more relevant than people think); identity hooks; what you do inside and outside the classroom (evidenced by LOR and national awards); and most importantly, whether the school needs more of that type of person this year).

You want to be the type of student who fits into a specific bucket.

Apply widely bc you don’t know what buckets each school needs that year.

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This feels like a "Game of Luck."[/quote]
Luck and games.  Private school kids play the game better.  At least the hundreds of thousands of dollars they spent on tuition will let them overspend for college too.  [/quote]

My kids went to private K-8, then got into a better public magnet high school that is superior in academics in our area. The magnet had a good relationship with top schools, but there is no college advising or help along the way. We voraciously researched and learned the “game” as best we could and it paid off. Youngest after a move ended up as a day student at a boarding school. The college advising started early (we missed all that), lots of help finding opportunities to fill holes, and top notch LOR’s. They strictly limited applications too. I do not however think they offered any insight we didn’t already have or could find online.

My takeaway from our experience is that [b]the schools relationship with the colleges was the biggest factor, the rest could be learned or mostly overcome. [/b]

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Agree with this wholeheartedly.
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